Sinfest

The Latin is a bit forced. He could easily have divided it "Don't let/the bastards/grind/you down" or something. It's not very elegant, but at least people will get what you are talking about.

At least he didn't just post musical notes again.

The It' girl shows don't make any sense. Any real audience would have lynched her, levelled the cafe with infighting by now or just gone home by now

She's been doing them for years and her audience still throws tomatoes at her. Is it just a metaphor for Tat's whining that his former fanbases have stuck around to give him regular and repeated well deserved verbal kickings?

Why, yes it is!

<Laces up hob nailed whomping boots>

<uncrates grenades>

<calls in air support>

I'm going in! <cover me>

I like the coherent storyline recently. Some of the previous strips were very good too

But.......... every time you do a "pro-feminist" strip you screw it up so hard your drillbit goes through the flipping wall

You're a one man counterproductive pro-feminist zealot who makes your "heros" look like complete assholes who couldn't engage Storytime Zombie if they had him chained to the fucking floor

Easy way for them to earn reader sympathy and be true to your storyline and crappy worldview?

Let them lose occasionally! You have no reader payoff because the only drama here is waiting for the next deus ex machina for you to pull out of your butt to cover for them.

If you want to preach, learn to fucking well engage people in the story you're telling, not rant and rave like a twat

Apologies for language and I understand the desire not to hurt women, but it's being patriarchal in itself with you not allowing them to have losses!

And with all that, you fully understand why "woke" fiction tends to be so terrible.

I suspect that people would forgive Tats a lot more...

If he could actually put his points forward without him constantly metaphorically running up the field, bypassing the entire team and scoring the kind of spectacular own goal that makes a nuke look like a halloween firecracker

NeedsAirCon wrote:

But.......... every time you do a "pro-feminist" strip you screw it up so hard your drillbit goes through the flipping wall

You're a one man counterproductive pro-feminist zealot who makes your "heros" look like complete assholes who couldn't engage Storytime Zombie if they had him chained to the fucking floor

And that is why I often suspect that Tats is subtly undermining his own comic. If Sinfest is subject to the oversight of a Significant Other, then someday they might come to a parting of the ways. In that case, he could repudiate the propaganda, and he'll be able to say "See?! I was writing a satire of radical feminism all the time!"

Or ... Sinfest might be the sincere radfem equivalent of a Chick Tract after all.

Edited by Hexapodia on Mar 22nd 2019 at 1:38:25 AM

"Carborundorum"?'' Really, Tats? Are you gonna leave that typo up there forever?

(Carborundorum would be the genitive plural of carborundum in Latin, and would be used if you were saying "of the carborundums" or "of the abrasives.")

UPDATE: Aw, jeeze ... That's how Margaret Atwood misspelled it. Tats was just copying her. Stupid begets stupid ...

Edited by Hexapodia on Mar 22nd 2019 at 11:56:05 AM

Wow

Just WOW

Wow...

@Hexapodia

You expect Tats NOT to be a shameless hack?

Unfortunately, I think younger Tat would have been wiser than to invest so much time (How long has it been since the feminism freakout? Eight years)? in a running joke. The current comic represents his thought processes which has completely taken over his ability to tell a story. Every so often he dangles that carrot in front of us, reminding us that he has the skill, only to yank it away and force us to realize that he doesn't own his comic anymore: social justice does. Even worse: his own brand of social justice.

It's like word vomit. At this point I don't think he can help himself. He HAS to put his beliefs in the comic. And even if he did go back to his older style it wouldn't really matter; that comic is stained by his craziness. Almost a decade. I can't even watch the train-wreck anymore. I have my hands over my eyes and I'm just having you guys tell me the gory details.

"Train wreck" is exactly what it is, and that's one of the fascinations for me. I keep thinking "No, it can't get any worse!" ... but somehow it does.

I don't think it's a joke. I think the radfem plotlines are the price Tats has to pay for sleeping in his girlfriend's bed ... or living in his sister's basement.

New strip: http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2019-03-23

Wait. There's Squig, and there's DevilSquig ... and both of them are good?!

This! Makes! No! Sense!

Nothing makes sense in Modern Sinfest.

Slick already cleaned up the house and tucked Squig into bed.

What's the point in having his demonic side doing it again?

Maybe he tosses around a lot in his sleep, and kicks his blankets off?

Him needing to be re-tucked into bed isn't strange, but what's the point in having his demonic side do it?

The only thing that's being established is that devils aren't bad which defeats the entire point of having them be demonic in the first place.

The solution to Squig possibly having kicked his blankets off raises so many more questions than if Tats wouldn't have made this comic.

It's like if somebody would drop something on the floor when suddenly a magic portal opens in a burst of flame and VIHZNAQ, DESTROYER OF WORLDS AND LORD OF INSUFFERABLE PAIN, (the allcaps are needed for obvious reasons! ) enters the scene to hand back what was dropped and leave.

I don't think this implies that Demon Squig is good, just that he and Squig get along much better than Monique and Slick with their own inner demons. I like that. It fits with Squig's character to make peace with his darker side.

Correction, Monique gets along GREAT with her demon. It's pretty much a Stand from Jojo for her. It's just Slick's that hates him.

Slick tries to better himself and his demon lashes out and hurts him. Squig tries to better himself and after a few tantrums they're best buddies.

Tat's messages are just so mixed and convoluted that it doesn't really follow any rules, rhyme, or reason. He has an idea of what he wants his characters to represent and his own world's rules be damned. It's proof that he writes by the seat of his pants that nothing is consistent.

Sleaze and Devil Squig are supposed to represent the dark sides of Slick and Squig that are obsessed with their respective vices in often exaggerated ways. It's just that so far, Squig has had minimal active conflict with Devil Squig, probably because he has a lot less ego than Slick (which had been inherited and maybe even exaggerated by Sleaze, hence his adamant refusal to cooperate), and thus Devil Squig still cares for his host/other-half's well-being.

I see Squig has still "taken to the bed." How long has he been asleep? I have a bad feeling for what may wake up when he does.

Although I'm actually good with Squig's devil self looking after him. Can't indulge vices if you're down with a cold.

New strip:

http://sinfest.net/view.php?date=2019-03-24

Devil!Squig has seen the light!

UGGGGHHHHHHH!!!

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Mar 23rd 2019 at 1:05:21 PM

Not too shabby, I'll accept it as better than passable

Pretty art and puts his point across without using a complete freight train's load of anvils

Edit: - Don't think I can complain too loudly here, since I did previously post how sick I was of Tats own goaling so hard you can see it from my bunker on Io

Edited by NeedsAirCon on Mar 23rd 2019 at 5:40:26 PM

Yargh! That middle section is going to haunt my nightmares for a while.

I still say porn hasn't really been as much of a problem for Squig as Tats suddenly made it out to be. This seems like a ploy to be able to use a favorite character again without having to make him "typically male."

I think that Squig has had porn cleansing cycles before October Femfest 2011 where he's had shed loads of the stuff - once he even sold his collection to get money for Tacos if I remember right

I think Squig deserves some compassion and understanding.

Consider: He's interested in sex and/or romance, but he can't engage in a normal heterosexual relationship because there aren't any female talking pigs in Sinfest. (Sarah Piglin is Squig in drag.) He can't have a gay relationship, because there are no other male talking pigs in Sinfest, either! He can't have a relationship with a human, male or female, because that would be bestiality.

So what is the poor son of a sow gonna do? Let him have his pornography!

Edited by Hexapodia on Mar 23rd 2019 at 11:01:26 AM