Sonic the Hedgehog film series general

That's what I've been suggestion for an alternate way they could have done Sonic the Hedgehog (2006).

Blaze fills so many of Elise's beats, that it's a wonder to me that they didn't do that. It would have also solved the issue of figuring out how to get her to Sonic's world.

It's obviously not one for one one comparison, and there would have to be some adjustments made for Blaze's more active role in things, but it works pretty well to me.

You'd lose the Sol Emeralds however, and probably Silver (which some might be ok with depending on where you stand with him) but it could work.

If we lose Silver is a plus for me.

Well, technically, we'd lose the connection to Silver, not necessarily him.

But Blaze being allowed to be in her own story like the Rush games, rather than a part of his would be good for both of them.

She'd get to shine, and he'd stopped getting dunked on for seemingly holding her back.

Edit: My original idea was for Blaze to take both Elise's role and Silver's, which I still think could work, but what Known Unknown suggested only requires her to take Elise's role.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Apr 17th 2024 at 6:12:42 AM

The way I figured, it'd be Elise taking Blaze's role and working with Sonic to stop whatever's about to happen, but Silver having the same role coming from a future where they already failed, and being manipulated by the Big Bad.

Ultimately, with Blaze in Elise's chair, the plot probably wouldn't change much. It'd be more "what if 06, but Elise wasn't a prop and actually had an active hand in the story."

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 17th 2024 at 6:20:49 AM

I like it.

I mean, if Blaze takes Elise's place, it makes their connection more meaningful.

Blaze awakens the Iblis in the present.

Silver's future is doomed.

Mephiles (?) tricks Silver to kill the Iblis trigger.

Sonic helps Blaze cheer up and gain a new appreciation in life...which he kind of did in Rush with Cream.

Blaze could even try to defend Sonic when Silver attacks him, despite remarking he looks familiar.

Something something.

Silver travels back to the past and rather than the Chaos Emerald, he delivers a Sol Emerald to a young Blaze.

Blaze is captured and Sonic must save her. Silver changes his mind and joins Sonic. But Sonic gives him an emerald to save his world.

E Nd of the world, yada yada, Blaze is down after Sonic's death and Silver cheers her up, saying she can do it because of her strong will.

Something something.

However, this kind of makes Blaze... too much of a Love Interest for Sonic, because now she has Elise's plot and Amy appearently doesn't exist.

As I said, there's a lot of work to do. But I like most of your ideas. When I originally conceived the concept, I had Blaze taking both Elise and Silver's role, but you came up with a way to keep Silver's place in the story.

Of course, she should still be the one fighting the final battle as Burning Blaze with Super Sonic.

Not sure what Shadow and Silver do, besides get !!@#%-ed.

The downside to a Blaze Elise story is diminishing the feminine aspects of the original work, which is a criticism of many blockbuster movies, including Peach's role in the Mario movie. I wouldn't really enjoy this hypothetical Blaze being like Peach in the movie, despite, well, being a commanding princess action girl in the source material.

Let's remember that, the problems with Elise weren't her femininity, but lack of story participation, being treated more as a mcguffing person. And the problem with Amy in the games wasn't her feminity, but her one-note gag overtaking her whole personality.

I miss funny pseudo yandere Amy. Her modern versions are too woke.

Because we have never seen her sleep at all. It’s weird.

Silver is literally the only reason to adapt Sonic 06. He's the only compelling thing in that game. You wouldn't adapt 06 without him.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Apr 17th 2024 at 10:47:22 AM

Do we need Silver? Honest question, I don't see what he brings to the table. I'd rather they focus on characters that are much more relevant.

The Sonic fanbase on TV Tropes has an obsession with every character post-Heroes getting their A Day in the Limelight despite most of them being one maybe two-off characters from certain niches of the franchise who don't fit in every plot. Franchise already has narrative and cast bloat but can't get away with leaving characters behind for some reason.

Probably not helped by Silver, Shadow, and Classic Sonic getting sledgehammered into Forces' plot, or Vector randomly turning up in Sonic Boom, or Blaze and Shadow existing in the Arthurian storybook world for some reason in Black Knight.

You will hear about how the latest thing should use Cream, Blaze, Marine, Cosmo, etc a lot.

Edited by FOFD on Apr 17th 2024 at 2:30:29 PM

Bullshit.

Nobody asks for Marine.

You'd be surprised.

Do we need Silver? Honest question, I don't see what he brings to the table. I'd rather they focus on characters that are much more relevant.

No, we don't need Silver. I just think it's ridiculous to even consider adapting 06 if the primary purpose isn't to introduce Silver. 06 is The Silver Story, in the same way that SA2 is The Shadow Story.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Apr 18th 2024 at 2:12:45 AM

Here's a good idea, maybe don't adapt 06. Sonic colors is more likely.

Especially since 06 has too much controversy behind it to be adapted.

Frankly, after almost two decades, I'd say that it deserves a fair shot.

Well, Civil War was a controversial comic book storyline and still got a well-received adaptation, so no need to write it off regardless of reputation.

There ARE more interesting games to adapt than 06.

Not sure what Shadow and Silver do, besides get !!@#%-ed.

To be honest, if you were ever to adapt the plot of Sonic 06 to film, Shadow's part of the story would probably be the first thing to get cut.

Shadow's story is in the weird place of "here's the tale of how Shadow as also doing stuff behind the scenes that affected everyone else's story in surprising ways!" while not really adding much to the story. Both Shadow and Silver's stories have kind of a Once More, with Clarity vibe, but Shadow's especially suffers from the plot not really being having much to do with Shadow the same way the other two are involved.

The basic plot of Sonic 06 isn't really all that complicated. It's just that it has a loooooot of padding that makes it feel that way.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 18th 2024 at 3:34:36 AM

...I'm going to assume that was a joke. SONIC is the character whose story is irrelevant to the overall plot of 06. Shadow and Silver actually deal with Mephiles and Iblis. You know, the actual antagonists. Sonic's story is just a shitty rehash of The Standard Mario Plot (tm).

Not really. Believe it or not, the important storyline is Sonic's story, despite how poorly done it is, because it focus on the main character of the game that everything revolves around with: Elise. Elise and Sonic are the ones that start the story, Sonic is the main objective of Mephiles's plan, and they both defeat Solaris at the end of the tale.

Shadow story, in my point of view, is better written because it offers a character study for Shadow and his team, but is kind of pointless as the only important factor in his story is Mephiles's personality and true motivations. Silver story is more important than him, but it suffers from a contrived and pointless scenario in Blaze's participation despite her not even been a focus in the plot.

06 is poorly written, iit's not a secret.

This is why I preferred Amy's old dynamic with Sonic, it was actually a funny inversion of the whole Mario saves the Princess, it's the girl who is chasing after the guy.

Seriously, the shit in 06 between Sonic and Elise is some of the most painful shit and disgusting stuff I've seen in a LONG WHILE. Sega is better off not adapting that story in anyway.

Or giving Sonic any human love interests.

...sure, whatever you say.

That's kind of the thing though: all this speculation of the "how" aside, I very much feel that Sega wouldn't DARE touch 06. After it came out, they went into panic mode dumping anything from the series even tangentially related to it or the Adventure era that spawned it.