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    Original OP 
https://deadline.com/2021/11/disney-animated-comedy-series-primos-natasha-kline-1234866563/

A new Disney show is being made called Primos. It's created by Big City Greens director Natasha Kline. The show centers on Tater, an eccentric 10-year-old girl with big dreams and, unbeknownst to her, a certain “it factor” that makes her exceptional. When her 12 cousins (“primos” in Spanish) move in for the summer, they help her discover just what it is. Tater’s aspirations and larger-than-life imagination are seen via entries in her super-secret diary, which turn her deepest thoughts into grandiose animation sequences.

Edited by MacronNotes on Aug 4th 2023 at 8:05:08 AM

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#1: Nov 3rd 2021 at 9:47:50 AM

1)If you're coming into this topic for the sole purpose of complaining about this show, please don't. That's against the rules

2)Please try to remain on topic

    Original OP 
https://deadline.com/2021/11/disney-animated-comedy-series-primos-natasha-kline-1234866563/

A new Disney show is being made called Primos. It's created by Big City Greens director Natasha Kline. The show centers on Tater, an eccentric 10-year-old girl with big dreams and, unbeknownst to her, a certain “it factor” that makes her exceptional. When her 12 cousins (“primos” in Spanish) move in for the summer, they help her discover just what it is. Tater’s aspirations and larger-than-life imagination are seen via entries in her super-secret diary, which turn her deepest thoughts into grandiose animation sequences.

Edited by MacronNotes on Aug 4th 2023 at 8:05:08 AM

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#2: Nov 3rd 2021 at 10:28:45 AM

Sounds interesting, hopefully Disney will give it a fair shot.

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#3: Nov 3rd 2021 at 10:35:27 AM

The show is apparently being made for Disney Junior. I just checked Twitter, and the Disney Junior Twitter account retweeted the news. Regardless, I look forward to this show.

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Edited by jessicadicicco610 on Nov 3rd 2021 at 10:59:25 AM

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#4: Nov 15th 2021 at 3:20:29 PM

So there was apparently a mistake. Primos is not being made for Disney Junior. I do wonder why the Disney Junior Twitter account retweeted the news, but it's not a Disney Junior show.

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#5: Jun 14th 2023 at 7:13:24 PM

They have released the title sequence:

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#6: Jun 14th 2023 at 9:51:42 PM

This thing is offensive.

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#7: Jun 14th 2023 at 9:53:58 PM

No, it isn't.

I'm baffled how people are getting so up in arms over this. A Latin American woman makes a cartoon and suddenly she's accused of being white and psychos run her off Instagram.

Edited by Diana1969 on Jun 14th 2023 at 12:02:02 PM

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#8: Jun 14th 2023 at 11:07:37 PM

...Just because she's Latin American doesn't mean she isn't also white. Being Hispanic doesn't automatically make you a person of color.

That being said I don't know why people are calling this offensive. I guess because the character designs might be a bit stereotypical? I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing though I'm not a fan of the artstyle or the main character's design myself.

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#9: Jun 14th 2023 at 11:32:27 PM

Just because she's Latin American doesn't mean she isn't also white. Being Hispanic doesn't automatically make you a person of color.

I'm literally a white Mexican. I'm aware.

I've also seen pictures of the creator. She's not white. That's what's pissing me off, is people accusing her of being white and not a "real" Latin American.

Edited by Diana1969 on Jun 14th 2023 at 1:33:46 PM

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#10: Jun 14th 2023 at 11:53:23 PM

So, yeah, the grammar error was... baffling. Kind of a cultural clash I guess; English speakers are often seen here as sort of loose with their language, while Latinos, even when we make mistakes, at least we try to sort of give symbolic importance to grammar rules.

HAVING SAID THAT.

Yeah man, this show is being way over hated. Like it had one small criticism and then people used it to vent about other frustrations they already had with Disney or just plain modern culture.

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#11: Jun 15th 2023 at 7:25:29 AM
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#12: Jun 15th 2023 at 7:37:34 AM

Who cares what race is she if she doesn't know a thing about her heritage, that's no excuse to call the fucking place as EARTHQUAKE CITY. No fucking self respecting town would call itself after a natural occurring disaster that affects its country.

We literally have Tornado Alley in the U.S.

And maybe don't imply a Mexican woman who is literally basing this off her childhood "doesn't know a thing about her heritage"?

If you're defending this I'll assume you're an uninformed enabler like the ones making this.

The show isn't even looking to be my cup of tea but suddenly I'm an "enabler" for saying it's ridiculous to see the creator harassed and falsely accused of being a white woman who doesn't know anything about her own culture? Or that some of the complaints are stupid?

Fucking hell, people have been getting mad that a character is named "Nacho". That's literally a common nickname in Spanish.

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#13: Jun 15th 2023 at 7:41:05 AM

While I can't speak for anyone here, I don't think we should be pooh-poohing the concerns raised over this show, considering most of the people speaking out about it seem to be Latin Americans themselves. From what I've seen, most of the criticism stems from what seems to be a very shallow and vaguely offensive interpretation of Latin American culture, with a gigantic Hispanic family huddled together under a single roof speaking broken Spanish under an orange sky.

That plus a name like "Natasha Klein" isn't exactly an indication of strong Hispanic ancestry, which probably compounds the backlash.

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Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#14: Jun 15th 2023 at 7:49:23 AM

That plus a name like "Natasha Klein" isn't exactly an indication of strong Hispanic ancestry, which probably compounds the backlash.

That's idiotic. Not every Latin American has a strongly Hispanic name.

While I can't speak for anyone here, I don't think we should be pooh-poohing the concerns raised over this show, considering most of the people speaking out about it seem to be Latin Americans themselves. From what I've seen, most of the criticism stems from what seems to be a very shallow and vaguely offensive interpretation of Latin American culture, with a gigantic Hispanic family huddled together under a single roof speaking broken Spanish under an orange sky.

And I've seen plenty other Latin Americans who have criticized the backlash. One Venezuelan fanartist I follow made a thread discussing the backlash and pointing out that some of the name controversy is dumb when these *are* some commonly used nicknames in Spanish.

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#15: Jun 15th 2023 at 8:05:46 AM

The show looks ugly.

Edited by Grounder on Jun 15th 2023 at 8:06:01 AM

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#16: Jun 15th 2023 at 8:07:19 AM

And Disney just removed the theme song from most social media due to the backlash.

Fucking peachy.

Edited by Diana1969 on Jun 15th 2023 at 10:07:44 AM

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#17: Jun 15th 2023 at 8:07:57 AM

Primos poisoned our water supply, burned our crops and delivered a plague unto our houses.

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#18: Jun 15th 2023 at 8:11:17 AM

You know what's super dumb?

One point of backlash is that one character is named Cuquita. Now, yes, Cuquita is often a word used to refer to something very nasty, but...it's also a nickname. It's what people named Refugio are often called.

Vicente Fernandez's wife is referred to as Doña Cuquita all the time.

Maybe it's just a Mexican Spanish thing but it's not uncommon.

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#19: Jun 15th 2023 at 8:11:49 AM

[up][up][up]They'll just reupload it later and hope people don't notice it.

They'll do it as many times as they deem necessary.

Edited by Grounder on Jun 15th 2023 at 8:12:01 AM

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#20: Jun 15th 2023 at 8:33:51 AM

I think what kills me is the fact they're just using the Mexican Filter for the base setting. Like sure, when that shows up in Live Action? Usually it's not the primary setting and they don't have the resources to make it feel too separate (like the travel fee or something).

But here in animation when you have all control over the color theory, and yet they still choose this monochrome yellow filter over everything? That sucks. The architecture was already spot on, but they couldn't place them under a blue sky? It's just boring how often latino locations have to be represented with that ugly monotone yellow when the sky over here is just as beautiful as anywhere else. I'm really upset how many pop culture lens Mexico ends up going through when something like this gets greenlit. I do not envy the PR guy on Disney having to manage this thing

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#21: Jun 15th 2023 at 9:02:06 AM

Looked deeper into it and.. jeez what a bad response she's given.

Here she's defending the poor grammar using the defense that Spanish conquistadors forced the language upon Mexicans...

Jesus. Like not even contemplating the fact it's been centuries since that and generations upon generations were born in those regions knowing and being taught the language by people born there in Latino countries, all taught the language before being given any history class as to why.

She also called someone Instagram as a grammar nazi just because the team didn't do a basic spelling check on Google. Justifying the mistake that "language is fluid and transistory", like that's what a student would say to their teacher after getting scolded for a bad grade in their language class.

Edited by Kirb-Star on Jun 15th 2023 at 11:03:04 AM

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#22: Jun 15th 2023 at 9:04:29 AM

It's a stupid response but given how this constantly plays out with a given creator being harassed on social media because "show bad" and kneejerk responses are made in response...can't say it's unexpected.

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#23: Jun 15th 2023 at 9:24:52 AM

Why is this thread is getting mad at an child for not speaking prefectly

Isn't that common with children characters 🤯

Anyway, it's apparently a slang thing in Spanish speaking Californians

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#24: Jun 15th 2023 at 9:28:21 AM

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#25: Jun 15th 2023 at 9:28:21 AM

Because it's an adult that wrote that in lol, and the Oye Primos part is the chorus of the song, not some young character's speech pattern.

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