They're both getting absolutely abysmal views and revenue on Youtube, and Elira in particular is still bleeding subscribers. Running to Bilibili is such a desperate move, and it's only a matter of time til they do something there that turns the Chinese audience against them, too
Edited by Proglottid on Apr 25th 2024 at 2:15:20 AM
i dont even know Elira had a presence on bilibili beforehand. I think Vox built a bilibili viewerbase beforehand to make it work for him
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After 10 year plus years I have the confidence to be here. Let's give it EVERYTHING we've got! It's...PUNISHMENT TIMEPretty sure Enna quickly disregarded whatever special PR lessons upper management gave her, because the antis are clearly living rent free in her mind. Sure, the negativity surrounding Nijisanji in the wake of the black stream is infectious and tiring, along with a large amount of trolls thriving on drama, but did you seriously have to bluntly call them "mentally ill"?
The absolute irony of Enna pointing out that her every move is being watched by critics, then dropping this piece of ammunition for them.
Edited by AnoBakaDesu on Apr 25th 2024 at 7:19:31 AM
"They played us like a DAMN FIDDLE!" — Kazuhira Miller, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom PainThat lack of PR training is really showing. I really wonder if Elira's private relationship with other niji members especially the ones mentioned in the black vid soured badly since she essentially claimed responsibility for the black vid with "I volunteered"
Edited by M1gamiTensei on Apr 25th 2024 at 5:38:08 AM
Pantheon server for all who click here. Freaking lost $410 and I am hunting down for a nuke to reign down.Elira has to move the clique narrative and making her the face of the response has pretty much poisoned the well
I'm A Pervert not an Asshole!At this point, Elira's best option is to get out of streaming entirely and get a regular job. People hate her too much for streaming to be viable going forward
I don't think she did even a tenth of the things people claim she did, but as the only girl in the black streamnote she became easy to villainize, while being much more accessible than Tazumi
nah man Elira is the type to take people down off the ladder to make herself number one, especially with how much collabs she got over her gen mates which is petty baffling as she was no were near the numbers of Pomu yet got nine collabs over Pomu's two, and got stuff that would have been Selen's personal dream sponsor or sponsors's that fit with Selen more like a gaming PC and mouse that went to other's in the company.
After 10 year plus years I have the confidence to be here. Let's give it EVERYTHING we've got! It's...PUNISHMENT TIMEElira is definitely a favourite of management. Selen was very much not. But there's not really evidence that Elira orchestrated the latter
If a company doesn't like you there are two reasons for that: one you pissed them off do to your actions, or two you pissed someone off enough to smear you and with how much collabs she's got over her gen mates gives me the impression that she has the company by the ear alongside with how popular Selen was thanks to her pro gaming abilities that were never cashed in by anycolor which makes the decisions to terminate her even more baffling in hindsight.
After 10 year plus years I have the confidence to be here. Let's give it EVERYTHING we've got! It's...PUNISHMENT TIMELike yes there is clear favoritism and someone having just pure contempt for Doki
The pc case collab Doki was dreaming of
first three are Elira Enna and rosemi … and only one of them are gamers
I'm A Pervert not an Asshole!It's just, the fact that Elira went radio silent immediately after the termination makes me think she was upset about it. And there's the whole thing with her PL twitter. There are other explanations, but I think the simplest one is just that Elira genuinely wasn't trying to hurt Selen
In general, the more I've been learning about what's going on NijiEN, the more things point to the bulk of the problem being the management rather than the talent. Not the case on the JP side, though!
To me it's the opposite as mangers are so overworked they let some talents to become pseudo mangers and with Elira going to Japan when this shitshow was starting and still work with the EN branch with the black screen stream gives me a personal vendetta vibe from her.
After 10 year plus years I have the confidence to be here. Let's give it EVERYTHING we've got! It's...PUNISHMENT TIMEDid you know that today is World Penguin Day? Did you know that a bunch of penguin VTubers got together to play Fall Guys, including Pina Pengin and Pippa Pebblesworth? 🐧
To me it's the opposite as mangers are so overworked they let some talents to become pseudo mangers and with Elira going to Japan when this shitshow was starting and still work with the EN branch with the black screen stream gives me a personal vendetta vibe from her.
...Most of this is a non-sequitur and the idea of Elira being in management has been effectively debunked, but I guess I can't actually stop you from living in conspiracy land
Wait, what specifically debunked some Niji members being part managers even in spirit? Not that Im a hardcore believer of this idea but what specifically debunked it?
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After 10 year plus years I have the confidence to be here. Let's give it EVERYTHING we've got! It's...PUNISHMENT TIMERaziel's document had the brief discussion of how Aster was being a problem. Specifically including that Elira was talking to Luca to try to deal with it. If Elira had actual management powers she could have just punished Aster outright instead of needing to get help from other talents. And as far as I know Aster is still a problem
that just tell me she does have pseudo management as she and others have to regulate talents when they step out of line and also proves that management will do the bare minimum or are overworked do to their job.
Edited by The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion on Apr 25th 2024 at 11:02:48 AM
After 10 year plus years I have the confidence to be here. Let's give it EVERYTHING we've got! It's...PUNISHMENT TIMEOh yeah, CyYu and Monarch are attempting a podcast. Their pilot has them taking questions from the audience and Twitter :p
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Burning love!The more I hear, the more I wonder that the reason most members of Hololive are tight-knit together is because YAGOO helped foster a healthy working environment.
You can't kill art.Look I get why the clique theory has appeal
It gives you a villain to hate and root for thier downfall in a manner more satisfying then a bunch of suits at a table
However people conveniently keep making exceptions for livers they don’t want to think Ill cause it would emotionally destroy them
Cough fairy cough rose
But who would clearly be complacent in a clique You can’t make Elira a super villain and claim her bff has no part in her wrong doing
Like if there was a super clique led by Elira someone would have cracked by now and outted them Between cannot control his mouth k9 kuro or when Sayu had breakdown and did drop names
I'm A Pervert not an Asshole!I feel like the main reason the clique theory hasn't died yet is pretty much the black stream where Elira literally-namedropped Enna and Millie (basically giving new ammunition to what some people were already believing).
Though I'm not quite sure she does actually get more hate than Vox does - if anything, the difference seems to be that Elira doesn't really have a way out audience-wise, while Vox has cultivated a horribly parasocial fanbase that'll stick with him no matter what.
Heck, a lot of the vitriol aimed at Vox is because people view his fanbase as akin to a cult, from what I've seen.
Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Apr 26th 2024 at 10:00:13 AM
Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen.
Apparently found out Elira plans to debut in bilibili soon like vox
I dunno... that just makes me sad.
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