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What is the difference between Informed Wrongness and Strawman Has A Point?

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PlasmaPower Since: Jan, 2015
#1: Jan 1st 2020 at 4:13:02 AM

They seem interchangeable with one another. I can’t really seem to find much of a difference between them? Like one is someone is wrong just because, and the other is Exactly What It Says on the Tin.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Jan 1st 2020 at 8:13:22 AM

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Jan 1st 2020 at 12:06:33 PM

A strawman is an argument that is designed to be wrong so that them being wrong is easily seen, even before a counterargument is made. That is different than someone just wrong, stubborn, having a personal vendetta or just having a different worldview. Strawman Has a Point also doesn't necessarily mean that they are right in all aspects, only that their argument is compelling enough that the opposing argument doesn't dismantle everything.

An example of Informed Wrongness would be an episode of FRIENDS had Phoebe convinced that a stray cat was the reincarnation of her dead mother, and Ross has to convince her to give it back to their owner. Ross was portrayed as being a bad friend for not coddling to Phoebe's essentricities, while fans largely agreed with him. This is just a personality spat, no one is a strawman.

An example of Strawman Has a Point is Patch Adams where Adams is a proponent of humor and other engagements to help the patients heal, while his roommate chastises him for not taking his medical education seriously and acting like a kindergarten teacher. Adams never actually counters that argument, he is just shown as being more right.

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