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futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#1: Jul 23rd 2019 at 12:26:38 PM

I had an idea for a prequel that could focus on Killmonger and have a Hurt Locker/Zero Dark Thirty/Rogue One type story behind it. Could be directed by Ryan Coogler, Kathryn Bigelow or Joe Johnston.

Could focus on him getting out of poverty, joining the CIA, becoming the destabilizer of governments, start developing his plan to take over Wakanda and have it all built around his final mission: to bring down a totalitarian third world government run by an evil British dictator (either Charles Dance or Richard E. Grant). Klaue can also be one of the mercenaries working for the villain. He joins a team, they travel there, have a bunch of close calls, share deep thoughts and desires (two of them have a romance), do a lot of dark stuff possibly and walk a thin line, Killmonger maybe second guesses his insurgence of Wakanda and then the mission is successful, but Killmonger and Klaue are the only survivors on each side (Killmonger becomes complex enough to be an MB, the new villain is a CM and maybe Klaue is given enough to be a CM too). This is all revealed as a formerly classified (now recently declassified) mission that Ross shares with T'Challa after Killmonger's death (or is he really).

Thoughts or ideas to build off it?

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#2: Jul 23rd 2019 at 12:32:46 PM

Sorta torn. On one hand, a prequel means that dead characters whom I liked/need expanding can be back (I miss Klaue, Killmonger was obviously awesome, T'Chaka could use expanding). On the other, other great characters would have to be written out (the Jabari, for example, can't be a part of it).

I think my biggest issue is about prequels in general. Death is already so meaningless that I'm very reticent about prequels as it provides Disney another way to circumvent a popular characters death.

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futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#3: Jul 23rd 2019 at 12:43:53 PM

@Larkman I think an issue most have with prequels Lark is they have the need to hammer in everything that you know about the previous movie(s) and how those things came to be and focus on that more so than anything else. If it can be avoided for the most part, it might not be a problem.

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#4: Jul 23rd 2019 at 12:45:50 PM

I despised Killmonger as a villain so this is a big fat no for me.

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futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#5: Jul 23rd 2019 at 12:51:16 PM

[up]To each their own.

I was also thinking maybe we see two separate memorial services for the team: one right before the mission becomes classified excluding Killmonger (who is MIA) and then one after its declassified where they include Killmonger as one of those honored posthumously.

Edited by futuremoviewriter on Jul 24th 2019 at 5:06:52 AM

futuremoviewriter Since: Jun, 2014
#6: Jul 29th 2019 at 8:30:39 AM

EDIT 12/16: While I liked Solo, I think a Marvel movie would know better than to not do it that way for example.

Edited by futuremoviewriter on Dec 16th 2019 at 3:46:05 AM

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#8: Dec 16th 2019 at 3:48:24 PM

My coworker suggested making it a trilogy instead, but I feel like stretching it out to three movies would be too much, even with different missions to throw in. On the other hand, could cover more of his earlier life though. That said, Rogue One did it in one, so it feels too fitting to not try for one too.

~Bullman What say you on that? Also, who for the villain between Richard E. Grant and Charles Dance?

Edited by futuremoviewriter on Dec 16th 2019 at 3:52:50 AM

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#10: Dec 19th 2019 at 8:04:30 AM

[up]Sounds good. For me, I say Dance because yeah, Grant played Pierce and the Man with a Beard But No Hair, but Dance played Jonah who isn't a CM, but whose arc is not finished yet though.

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#11: Dec 19th 2019 at 9:23:29 AM

I chose Dance because of his characters in the Golden Child (a CM) and Last Action Hero (a MB), so I know he can play different types of villains.

Edited by Bullman on Dec 19th 2019 at 11:23:53 AM

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#12: Dec 19th 2019 at 9:31:33 AM

Charles Dance's voice is also very robust compared to Richard E. Grant's. He also commands presence everywhere he goes too. He might never not be Tywin Lannister again. Haha.

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#13: Dec 19th 2019 at 9:37:58 AM

Yep. That's the type of role that an actor can't escape.

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#14: Dec 19th 2019 at 9:44:04 AM

I think The Hurt Locker/Zero Dark Thirty combined with Rogue One would be the best template. It'd have a very gritty, realistic and tense approach to the concept.

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#16: Dec 19th 2019 at 9:58:17 AM

You think it'd be appropriate to bring someone other than Ryan Coogler in too then?

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#18: Dec 19th 2019 at 10:11:57 AM

My argument was that Kathryn Bigelow's style might work better, but yeah, he did too good a job with both Black Panther and the Creed movies to not have him back.

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#19: Dec 19th 2019 at 10:15:30 AM

Yeah best not to do anything similar to Solo.

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#20: Dec 19th 2019 at 10:21:33 AM

I liked Solo, but yeah, it paid too much lip service. Killmonger is better off not doing that.

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#21: Dec 19th 2019 at 10:22:08 AM

I liked it too. But I didn't need to know how he got the name Solo.

Edited by Bullman on Dec 19th 2019 at 12:22:45 PM

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#22: Dec 19th 2019 at 10:30:21 AM

[up]That was not one of the smarter bits.

I'm trying to be vague because I don't what to make all my ideas for it public.

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#24: Dec 19th 2019 at 10:35:42 AM

For rating, think it'd be PG-13 or that it might go for the R?

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