Fire Emblem Three Houses (Spoiler Thread)

I think this is just a case of 'not using that word properly'

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Conversely, if he was disowned for attempting to murder Sylvain, how was he able to get multiple chances?

Then Sylvain states that Miklan lost everything when Sylvain was born. The more you look at the Gautier family drama, the less sense it makes.

Caspar's family doesn't have a crest though.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 26th 2020 at 10:48:46 AM

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.

Oh, that's a derp on my part.

The game missed a chance to have a Crestless noble from a Crest-bearing family. A Miklan who didn't turn out to be a total shit of a human being. My brain just inserted Caspar into that role on its own.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

Found a Twitter thread where the poster explains how all of the "banned technology" mentioned in the Abyss library (save for spyglasses) are actually things that are actually still used in Fodlan without repercussion.

• They posit that Manuela being able to autopsy Jeralt's body and figure out the wound was made by an abnormal weapon means that either she was trained professionally or she has a lot of self-taught experience, and they find the former to be more likely. They point out Manuela is never punished for the autopsy.
• They posit that the sheer amount of fire traps used in the game means that either the armies are carrying around a scary amount of gunpowder or they are using oil as fuel for the fire traps.
• They believe printing presses are being used on the basis that if the books were copied by hand, they should be treated like they're made out of gold due to the sheer amount of time and effort it takes to copy. They point out Hilda losing some books and Claude leaving a lot of books strewn around should be treated much more seriously if said books were hand-copied.
• The spyglass thing came about with Rhea saying that they lessen the mystery of the goddess, who watches from above.

Said poster also points out that it's possible that Rhea did ban all those things long ago, but eventually relaxed the ban as time went on.

I do find one particular bit in the thread funny: the part where the poster said that, in the support where Hilda loses some books, the librarian would've either forced Hilda pay a huge enough fine to make a man cry or straight up killed her if the books were really hand-copied.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Feb 26th 2020 at 11:13:59 AM

Because Crests are a gameplay thing.

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In regard to 'lenses being banned', Ignatz and Hanneman both wear glasses

Edited by asterism on Feb 26th 2020 at 7:18:31 PM

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Magic is used for autopsies. And only those of the head and chest were banned. The supposed reason given for the ban was to prevent advancement of non magical medical technology. Manuela talks about the difference between magical and non magical healing too.

And woodblock printing still exists. And the only place where we see any large book collections are places too rich to care.

Edited by RangerJackWalker on Feb 27th 2020 at 12:51:33 AM

Rhea is a big proponent of doing something that seems like a good idea to her, only to backtrack when it becomes apparent that it's causing more headaches than it's solving.

Your preferences are not everyone else's preferences.

The poster also has a thread where they talk about how they find the "white magic can be used to do things similar to autopsies" confusing.

• They mention that while it is possible white magic can do autopsies, they point out that the one person we know can perform an autopsy doesn't talk about white magic in that fashion.
• They bring up how Manuela talks about white magic being about closing wounds faster and accelerating healing processes, and point out that autopsies are about examining bodies in a wounded/diseased state, which would make white magic counterintuitive.
• They point out again that doing autopsies require a lot of training and that Manuela must've learned it somewhere, either self-taught or by a mentor. They believe Manuela learning from a mentor is more likely, and then wonder why no one went after that mentor, or that mentor's mentor, etc.
• They point out that Manuela keeps a medical mannequin in her office and how it looks like it has an accurate likeness of the head and chest. They point out this is completely in the open and how models like it are usually used for education, leading them to guess that there's likely some place out there teaching that stuff.

I will admit that the image of Manuela digging up dead bodies just to teach herself how to do autopsies is kind of funny.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Feb 26th 2020 at 11:38:03 AM

Here are some comments from Reddit pointing out some potential issues in that guy's logic.

Oil: https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/f3rpyh/deciphering_the_banned_books/fhkwig7/

Books: https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/f3rpyh/deciphering_the_banned_books/fhmwdg7/

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet Unless I grew it. In that case, throw it in the trash.

Also, I find it hard to believe that nothing has leaked into Fodlan from the outside. Rhea doesn't possess the capacity to suppress shit on a large scale once its out of the bottle.

The Empire and Dagda just fought a war where armies went into both nations for a decent amount of time. They can't expect us to believe that there wasn't some transition of ideas in the process? Same thing with the Alliance and the constant raids, warfare is a big source of technological spread throughout history.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.

Said guy also comments in both Reddit threads to address those issues:

• They concede that they didn't consider that pitch and tar could be made from other sources and bring up that it is possibility some of the fire traps were initiated by magic, but point out that the fire trap that the Church uses on Randolph seems mechanism-based, which implies a lot of fuel.
• They clarify their point about the books is more on how the books are treated and not so much the sheer amount of them. Their explanation for their train of thought on the printing press stuff is also quite long, but an interesting read, especially the bit where they speculate on how much of the population of Fodlan is literate.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Feb 26th 2020 at 11:53:47 AM

Childrens stories with pictures were only really possible when mass producing books is easy from what I understand. And the endings always note how children everywhere love Seteths fables.

Edit: Read those links and they point out exactly thaf.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Feb 26th 2020 at 12:08:06 PM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.

At least we know Valentia probably has a printing press, what with them having comic books. Hey, give it a couple hundred years, and maybe Seteth might create comic books one day as well.

Yeah but the endings all have major reforms to the church and Fodlan as a whole.

It should be emntioned that the library and Manuela are directly overseen by Rhea and thus may get bigger liberties than the rest of Fodlan.

As you know, Ferdinand and Lorenz are obsessed with being good nobles because their fathers are terrible people. Sylvain isn't. Aside from the deal with Miklan, is there any other evidence to suggest that Sylvain's father is a horrible person? Because if he was, it would make since for him to have that goal, too.

The library is overseen by Seteth, who doesnt allow raunchy sex books including one about Cethleann. Rhea and real Tomas let that shit pass.

Not to mention implementing the new system would take easily decades till they got enough machines to easily mass produce, which their endings don'f suggest at all.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Feb 26th 2020 at 1:00:18 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.

Can we all take a moment to appreciate that the most horrific thing in the series- worse than the madness of Duma or Anankos, worse than the destruction of Grima, worse that Ashera or Gritnea Tower, worse than the Dread Island or the Cult of Loptus, is whatever Seteth did to the guy who wrote that book about Flayn?

Nach jeder Ebbe kommt die Flut.

What did he do?

I'm guessing Seteth gave him a supplex.

One Strip! One Strip!

Seteth is an Earth Dragon, so I'm fairly certain whatever he did to the guy involved being buried more than six feet under.

You're assuming there was something left to be buried. Even if Seteth can't turn into a dragon, he still rides wyverns, so probably more like digested.

The raunchy novel set in Adrestia mentions Cichol as Guardian of the Land. Wonder if thats his Class as a Child of the Goddess.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.

Sylv's paralogue has his father sending him alone on a mission to subdue the leftovers of Miklan's bandits, without telling him why.

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Sylvain does speculate on it being a test I recall. To get help and stuff. They do kinda imply Sylvains a lot like his dad.

Which well is Sylvain so....

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Feb 26th 2020 at 4:05:37 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.

Also, why is "if your father is a shitty person you will naturally become obsessed with virtue, rulership and the concept of nobility, and if you don't it means your father was probably a good person" even an assumption to begin with?