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Nah, that's what she tells Byleth, but VW confirms she suspected that Sothis and Byleth were different people. She's just trying to make herself look sympathetic to not get a time out from mommy. If she truly considered Byleth to be amnesiac Sothis, she would defer to their judgement more, like she's pissed if Byleth refuses to give her Miklan's Relic, i doubt she would be angry if she thought Byleth was mommy. She even outright states in her S-support that she wished Byleth would become Sothis.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 15th 2020 at 12:57:29 PM
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I think she was being more self delusional 
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To be fair, Rhea is shooting in the dark here, considering this is literally the first time she has done something like this before.
Though we have Grima and Robin as an example for us the audience to have a better understanding.
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The new supports with the lords are obviously tailor made to address complaints about things that their stories left unaddressed in the main game. Dimitri's give information about Patricia and has him investigte the albinos, Claude's reveals the names of his mother and grandfather (Tiana and Oswald the Old) and I've heard it goes a bit into his thoughts on the war as well. Edelgard's gives more details on how she palns to run her new goevernment and what place the old nobility has in it, and apparently talks about her being the Flame Emperor too.
Edited by Druplesnubb on Feb 15th 2020 at 12:19:06 PM
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No, Constance just has two boss dialogues with Flame Emperor Edelgard. Her supports with her don't address this.
So your thoughts on Rhea's full actions in the DLC? You were sort of right I'd call Rhea incompetent after this DLC waaaaay back then, but damn, I did not expect that.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 15th 2020 at 3:44:15 AM
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Aw darn it. Still, at least she does call her out during the battle convos because the BE barely do that after she reveals herself in the Holy Tomb.
About Rhea, I think the DLC makes me even more mad she never tried to explain to Jeralt what happened to his wife and baby. The dude deserved an explanation at least, so it's no wonder his trust was betrayed when Rhea couldn't even afford doing that and tried to play dumb.
Edited by Blackress on Feb 15th 2020 at 4:14:40 AM
Actually since Aelfric only set it in motion recently, it's entirely likely Rhea visited it in the same location for awhile. Aelfric would have no reason to move it until his plan was nearly complete.
And tbh with the reveal that Sitri is very much a Nabataen homunculus, burying her in the ground was more likely to cause trouble. Cause if Byleth is part Lizard, it's only natural the Empire/Slither would dig up their moms grave to study and rip her apart.
She did explain some of it. Their mom made the choice and had Rhea choose her child, and considering Aelfric makes very clear Byleth was stillborn, there was pretty much no way she was going to let her and Jeralts child die.
But explaining the full details was going to be weird (You're wife was a frail lizard homunculis of the Goddess, and only her heart could save her child, and she chose the baby.)
They actually make a point that Jeralt ultimately realized he should never have left the Monastery, because Sitri showed even without an awakened Sothis Byleth would have developed naturally if not left in a environment like a mercenary group.
The only thing I'll give her shit for in this sidestory is the Printing Press. WHAT THE FUCK RHEA!? The other two have completely valid points, especially oil, but that? Get your Cardinals acts together.
@Red Hunter: I'd say it's more likely a Gone Horribly Wrong attempt at revealing their true forms. Since Demonic Beasts are mockeries of the Nabataens, the people Fodlan's "true form" would likely be more in line with proper Nabataens.
And you know Those Who Slither, even at their most desperate, never use the Crest Stones to become Lizards in Shambhalla, which well if they're the only actual humans then that would be because they can't become lizards.
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Feb 15th 2020 at 5:06:46 AM
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But Rhea doesn't know any of that, though? She doesn't know that the empire is infiltrated by guys who know the secrets of the Nabteans. As far as she's aware, nobody knows that there are dragon people who's hearts can be weaponized, end even if they did they wouldn't have any reason to suspect that Sitri is one.
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Yeah a lot of your arguments rely on Rhea not knowing who the Agarthans are despite having centuries to investigate.
Rhea held a FAKE funeral, she could have at least had the decency to hold the funeral with the real body first, and then take it away years later, she has all the time in the world after all. Besides, Sitri's grave demonstrates no signs of tampering.
Additionally, Sothis states it was her awakening that caused Byleth to feel emotions, them teaching class happened to coincide, and really, Jeralt never forgives Rhea anyway. He made the right call taking his child away from her.
And besides, Aelferic only knew Byleth was stillborn from second hand info, i highly doubt he was in the room when Byleth was born, otherwise a LOT of problems could have been avoided.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 15th 2020 at 5:11:28 AM
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I mean we know exactly what Rhea feels about family. Bury them in specific tombs underground in the Holy Tomb/Special Places she thinks they'll be safe and she can visit them later. It's a sign of how she can't let go herself, and we know that the fear of what could be done is always a motivation for Rhea.
In fact with how tolerant she is of Aelfric's actions, even pleading with him instead f going for the knife to stab, her statement she views him as her children is likely not far from the truth either.
He specifies the child was stillborn first though, and he only gets angry when it seems Rhea killed Sitri afterwards. But everything she does with Sitri is in line with how Rhea can't let go of family, so if anything it proves the opposite. She can't let go of Sitri herself, but she also knows she can't revive Sitri. So she's incredibly sympathetic with Aelfric for also being unable to move on as well.
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Feb 15th 2020 at 5:15:05 AM
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So anyone notice that when Aelfric and Sitri fuse into an unholy abomination Rhea says it's "just like last time"? So it seems that the prediction I made a while ago about Sothis' body getting revived as a mindless zombie was correct, except it happened in the distant past rather than during CS itself.
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It would seem Sothis's revival was set back then, you would think creating a horrific abomination would tell Rhea that necromancy is a bad idea but ehhh. One also wonders about the ethics of creating Byleth's mother, since she was born frail and without emotions to ultimately serve as a host for Sothis.
There are other points i disagree with, but i will concede that Rhea did earn some points for attempting to talk Aelferic down, even if his attempt most likely did hit close to home for her. Still, one wonders how he learned about Byleth being stillborn if Jeralt didn't know, and one wonders if Aelferic knew Byleth had no heart beat. i suppose Rhea told him some of story in her usual fashion.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 15th 2020 at 6:18:28 AM
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My idea is that she put the Sword of the Creator into the Chalice and some of her own blood with it becoming something like that.
But it does explain why the Four Apostles vowed to never pass on their Crests. The threat of the Chalice reviving an army of abominations was that dangerous.
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Feb 15th 2020 at 5:44:10 AM
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And somehow all four of them broke that vow. "They need the blood of all four of us, so if I'm the only one who does it it's fine".
-Noa, probably. And also Chevalier, Aubin and Timotheos.
Edited by Druplesnubb on Feb 15th 2020 at 2:50:52 PM
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Edelgard: Professor, have you ever heard the tragedy of Archbishop Rhea the wise?
Byleth: No...
Edelgard: I thought not. It is not a story that the Church would tell you. It's a Nabatean legend i heard from a trusted source. Archbishop Rhea was a priest so powerful and so wise, she could even use magic to create... life. She had such a knowledge of crests, that she could even keep the ones she loved from dying and bless them with long life.
Byleth: She could actually save people from death?
Edelgard: Faith magic is a pathway to abilities some would consider unnatural.
Byleth: What happened to her?
Edelgard: She became so powerful... that the only thing she feared was losing her mother, which of course she eventually did. Her mother taught a civilization everything she knew, and then a bandit killed her in her sleep. Ironic, Rhea could bless people with long life and create life of her own, but she could never revive her mother.
Sothis: You know i'm right here? And this is the 16th time you told this story.
Edelgard: I know, and it never gets old.
You know, this and the fact Rhea calls the church people as her own children makes white beasts even more disturbing.
Look, they have the life span of centuries, i seriously doubt anyone can NOT get it on with time like that.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 15th 2020 at 5:54:34 AM
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Chevalier left a lot of dragon blood in Kupala.
And Timotheos meanwhile started an entire Hidden Elf Village of Crest Bearers.
And Aubin almost almost passed on without doing so until he saved Yuris life.
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Edited by Druplesnubb on Feb 15th 2020 at 2:58:57 PM
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Jeritza sure was busy that month, huh?
It's been 3000 years…
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Cool. Do their dialouge change if you recruit them at that point? Because i've checked, they don't acknowledge CS or knowing who you are.
The fuck? Aelferic appears in the main game? In the month of the Eagle and Lion? Damn it, i'm on month 12.
Sorry Flayn, but Constance requires some support building.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 15th 2020 at 6:03:58 AM
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It should be noted there are still two dlc packs found in the game files that was added after Jeritza and Anna came out. CS covered the fourth one.
So potentially there's still a bit more coming.
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Yes, I said this before. One of them is another outfit for Sothis.
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Rhea did suspect Byleth was their own person, just like Sitri was, just like every Nabatean homunculus she has made (twelve, iirc). From the way she talks, she's always holding out hope her current experiment will be Sothis, just amnesiac, but grows to care for and love the person the homunculus becomes anyways.
Then Byleth comes, and she's curious. Once again, she hopes. They start wielding the sword of the creator, they access a divine power no other homunculus has done before. This is it, Sothis has come back.
Then they sit in the throne and nothing happens. And what goes on later depends on the route. In non-CF routes she believes Byleth is Sothis for a while longer, only for 5 years of captivity and torture to dispel that notion. In CF, Byleth is not Sothis, they're Nemesis, and every proof to the contrary is just because they stole that power from Sothis.
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The power that Rhea gave. It's a self serving memory.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 15th 2020 at 7:12:54 AM
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Yes because in her mind there's no way she would ever willing empower Nemesis. They had to be manipulating her. Deceiving her so they could murder the rest of her kind.
In fact if you think about it long enough she could potentially even believe they plotted their mothers death as a baby and manipulated her into giving her life up for them, and deceived her into believing it was Sitri's choice. Because she essentially lost her daughter for someone who would gladly kill Sitri if she was alive because she's a Nabataen.
And the fact she quickly comes to this conclusion just shows how much she can't accept her own kin would betray them.
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Feb 15th 2020 at 7:21:23 AM
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To be fair on last part, it doesn't really seem like pre timeskip that Rhea considers Byleth and Sothis to be different people, she is essentially hoping that they are amnesiac Sothis until proven otherwise