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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#3751: Oct 21st 2019 at 6:34:36 PM

To be fair to Ingrid's dad, it's established in a few of her supports (e.g. with Seteth) that she felt too guilty to ever tell him that she wants to do more than marry, and if she did he'd support her.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#3752: Oct 21st 2019 at 6:45:30 PM

He also is doing it to support Galatea first and foremost, and isn't against honor and chivalry, which is why he lets up on Azure Moon.

It's only like, say, betraying the Kingdom that her father, the rest of her family, and the people pretty much want nothing to with her anymore, and why the endings where she does take over Galatea she has to work to earn back the people's trust.

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#3753: Oct 21st 2019 at 6:58:09 PM

I also played the CF route as an Edelgard griefer evil grin that's why I married Sothis in that playthrough and chose all the answers that would decrease support with her right after I got the required C support to enter CF. I also recruited all the religious characters and married all the Black Eagles off to other people, and accidentally ended pairing her with Hanneman.

IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#3754: Oct 21st 2019 at 7:07:48 PM

[up]She's so friggin' touchy with how she'll like you less without the constant praise that trolling her is definitely hard to resist. I wouldn't be surprised if she had more support-reducing dialogue options than Dimitri and Claude combined.

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#3755: Oct 21st 2019 at 7:41:45 PM

The arranged marriage thing is a values dissonance thing. Also Ingrid's marriage will also make or break their territory.

For some, Edelgard being the darkest of all the lords is bad, as you can see with, Iniuria, for others, it's her winning trait.

Please, if you really want to grief Edelgard, pair her with Ferdinand Von Aegir.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Oct 21st 2019 at 7:42:46 AM

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#3756: Oct 21st 2019 at 7:47:27 PM

I take great offense to that! Clearly Hanneman is the superior Edie griefpair!

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#3757: Oct 21st 2019 at 7:53:11 PM

[up] You do realize that Ferdinand Von Aegir getting with Edelgard is the second best victory, to getting with Byleth before her? Hanneman is a gentleman, and will most likely die before her. But Ferdinand Von Aegir will be with her, her ENTIRE LIFE. Plus we all know Edelgard is a total bottom, while Ferdinand Von Aegir isn't. Plus imagine how frustrating it would be to Edelgard being with Ferdinand Von Aegir.

Plus her ending with Hanneman talks about what a happy and fulfilling relationship they had, Ferdinand and Edelgard mentions they had kids. That's like pairing Selena with Subaki and giving her a family of mini Cordelia's.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Oct 21st 2019 at 7:56:01 AM

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#3758: Oct 21st 2019 at 7:55:16 PM

But if Edelgard marries Ferdinand then he can't marry Hubert, so Edelgard can't spend the rest of her life envying how much more successful and popular they are then her! And instead, she can look at her husband and reflect how his advances make her entire life's work pointless!

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#3759: Oct 21st 2019 at 7:57:40 PM

[up] Hanneman achieves Edelgard's dreams. Here's another better troll pairing: Edelgard with Manuela. None of them get married.

Also someone else pairs Claude with Ingrid? i see they are a person of great taste.

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#3760: Oct 21st 2019 at 8:00:30 PM

Claude/Ingrid is indeed awesome; it's odd that all of her pairings outside of the obvious three childhood friends are cuter.

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#3761: Oct 21st 2019 at 8:19:54 PM

[up] Westermarck effect? Plus there is something about pairing Claude who killed racism with Ingrid who is the CEO of racism. Even though Hilda is also racist but isn't memed for it.

But here is the ultimate grief pairing and move, Hubert/Shamir, with this, i troll BOTH Catherine and Cyril in one masterstroke. Also raising Rhea's supports all the way to A and then picking Crimson Flower and pairing with Edelgard is so much fun. No Grief pairings allow us to kill the target with the pairing of our choice.cool

Edited by RedHunter543 on Oct 21st 2019 at 8:21:30 AM

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#3762: Oct 21st 2019 at 8:25:03 PM

I've heard some people support Byleth/Hubert for griefing as well: Hubert doesn't get his lifelong love Edelgard or the pairing that he comes to support for her sake, and Edelgard loses the person she's been obsessed with since her teens to the person she trusts most.

Edited by IniuriaTalis on Oct 21st 2019 at 11:25:22 AM

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#3763: Oct 21st 2019 at 8:34:47 PM

For Edel and Hubert, the way to torment them is to get them and Byleth all up to A support with each other, and then marry one of them and leave the other unpaired.

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Tarlonniel Since: Apr, 2012
#3764: Oct 21st 2019 at 8:49:30 PM

I wish it was easier to pair specific people up with other specific people. When I try to ship two units it keeps going very wrong.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#3765: Oct 21st 2019 at 8:59:00 PM

"Also someone else pairs Claude with Ingrid? i see they are a person of great taste."

High five!

I love how even while they start understanding each other and admit each other's good points, they still can't stop nagging each other. Kinda hypocritical on Claude's end considering his original complaint was her nagging him, only to swing around in the end to nag her for not nagging him. But I guess that's what you get when people as different as the sun and moon start experiencing belligerent sexual tension.

[up] I feel you. Still not sure if certain people don't get a paired ending despite A supports or if I just screwed up somewhere.

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#3766: Oct 21st 2019 at 9:33:12 PM

You fools, Edelgard supports Hubert and Byleth. Their s support shows this. Besides you can't grief Edelgard in an ending where she wins. The ultimate troll pairing for her would be Dimitri and Byleth. Still, I find trolling Rhea to be so much more fun. I mean killing her with my own griefer pairing is a highlight of CF.

[up] "High fives you back"

Claude and Ingrid's supports are great. They have development and chemistry. Plus the part where Ingrid tries to act demure is hilarious.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#3767: Oct 21st 2019 at 10:11:45 PM

Welp I've been hearing the Japanese version of CF ending narration says Faerghus and the Church were erased from history, making it less radical in english.

Which I hope isn't the case or intentionally translated poorly.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Oct 21st 2019 at 10:19:51 AM

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#3768: Oct 21st 2019 at 10:31:56 PM

I believe it says they ceased to exist, not that they were erased from history. Which is true - Faerghus isn't a kingdom anymore, and the Church of Seiros was likely converted into a secular organization to help people. Without Rhea, there really is no difference between the Church and a secular organization anyway, since all the commandments are basically just "do good works" with the exception of Rhea's "I Do What I Want" commandment.

Edit: Moved down.

Edited by RedSavant on Oct 21st 2019 at 1:39:25 PM

It's been fun.
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#3769: Oct 21st 2019 at 10:38:07 PM

Ah yeah I found a better translation that says they disappeared from history.

Though the mention of erasing Status wasn't a thing in the Japanese version either in the link I found after hearing about this and searching.

Here on Tumblr

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#3770: Oct 21st 2019 at 10:39:31 PM

Pulling it up now. The line is 王都フェルディアの陥落によって、ファーガス神聖王国と、セイロス教会は、フォドランの歴史からその姿を消した. I can see where the confusion comes from, but this means that the Kingdom and Church stopped existing with the fall of Fhirdiad, and "vanished from history" in the same sense as, say, someone who dies or goes missing (kind of similar to some of Ferdinand or Felix's endings) does - there's no more record of them past that point, because... well, they died or went missing.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#3771: Oct 21st 2019 at 10:40:16 PM

Well that solves that.

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#3772: Oct 21st 2019 at 10:42:27 PM

As someone who is against Rhea's edits of history, if Edelgard really did delete the kingdom and Church form history, that would not be cool.

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#3773: Oct 21st 2019 at 11:54:07 PM

She didn't. They just stopped existing.

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RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#3774: Oct 22nd 2019 at 12:32:27 AM

[up] Yeah, that's what i meant. Edelgard didn't stoop to deleting history. And since the endings do state historians are aware Those Who Slither exist, i think Edelgard declassified things about the war and exposed the Agarthans and their involvement with Fodlan too. Pretty sure the guilt of her sins is why she steps down eventually.

If Edelgard did do what Rhea did in the same extent, then i think i would lose a LOT of respect for her. After all, i support Edelgard because 1: Ideology, 2: Characterization. 3: how interesting i find her route. 4: i disagree with Rhea and the Church 5: Waifu. 6: Contractually obligated to support her because Chaos player.

EDIT: i notice a weird Mandela effect afflicting the fanbase with this game. I asked people where Edelgard's story about Nemesis and Rhea and the answer i kept getting was near the end of part 1. When it was actually right before fighting Claude. And where did the idea that the Agarthans tell Edelgard about false history come from? Or that Edelgard called Nemesis a hero? And why are most of these weird Mandela effects only affect Edelgard and Rhea? Also i just found out, in the start of part 2, Edelgard does have scholars investigating the records in the Monastery. Huh, well Edelgard really did try to learn the truth but unlike Claude, her route doesn't have the benefit of someone explaining the plot to her.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Oct 22nd 2019 at 1:01:02 AM

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#3775: Oct 22nd 2019 at 1:43:53 AM

Ha! Someone pointed out Seteth confiscating Immaculate One papers on GD is because it's essentially his sisters nudes as a dragon.

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