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artfulscruff Since: Apr, 2010
#801: Nov 27th 2020 at 11:29:08 AM

Presumably they can justify the cost against the near-certain profit to be made, but yes, I wonder where they get the funds from too.

Scalping must be near impossible to police or regulate, if it's as much of a problem as this. Is it even actually illegal? I feel like I should know that, but I don't.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#802: Nov 27th 2020 at 11:38:11 AM

From a small amount of research I did it's it not (in the US at least) unless it's a resource that's considered necessary goods. Some people nearly got in trouble a while back this year for trying to do that with face masks.

Also when it is illegal it's called price gouging.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#803: Nov 27th 2020 at 12:26:43 PM

Only when you're the one selling it. Private reselling of a console at high prices is perfectly legal.

I think if you want to fight this legally, you'd have to show that this no longer falls under private resales, and is instead a commercial business.

Optimism is a duty.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#805: Nov 30th 2020 at 4:03:36 PM

Well, that doesn't seem encouraging.

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Primis Since: Nov, 2010
#806: Nov 30th 2020 at 4:08:51 PM

I mean, that's to be expected. The pandemic and all...

A console's best games rarely come out within the first year anyway, it's always just a bunch of tech demos and basically last-gen games with a shiny coat of paint for the first year.

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#807: Nov 30th 2020 at 5:16:07 PM

Certain people still claim the PS 4 doesn't have any games all these years later, so that hardly means much. But yeah, I wouldn't announce "Hey, we're going to fuck around for 2 years. Hope you don't regret buying this console." if I were the CEO.

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superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#808: Dec 1st 2020 at 1:33:16 AM

I know I've already said something like this, but how long do you think the PS 5 will last on the market before the PS 6 arrives? The previous gen lasted 7 years, could it last shorter or longer?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#809: Dec 1st 2020 at 6:18:14 AM

Probably around the same time. 7-10 years seems to be the sweet spot for consoles.

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artfulscruff Since: Apr, 2010
#810: Dec 1st 2020 at 8:08:40 AM

It is a weird thing to announce, but 2020 is basically over (please let it be over), and there's got to be some strong games coming in 2021. Horizon: Forbidden West is due then, right? That ought be a big deal if nothing else is.

And who's claiming the PS 4 doesn't have games? I assume we're talking exclusives, but whoever said that is talking out of their arse. note 

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#811: Dec 1st 2020 at 9:46:33 AM

Who cares about exclusivity anyway?

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superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#812: Dec 1st 2020 at 11:47:53 AM

[up][up][up]Agreed. Though I can see them pushing for 8 years (gap between the 360 and Xbone) since the PS 5 isn't starting off underpowered compared to P Cs. Then again, the PS 3 was pretty powerful for its time and that still lasted 7 years.

artfulscruff Since: Apr, 2010
#813: Dec 1st 2020 at 11:53:49 AM

[up][up] If I'm being honest, I kinda do, but not in a big way. Really, the reason I've stuck with Playstation all these years is because of the exclusives, but we're talking back when Final Fantasy games were only on Playstation. These days it's The Last Of Us, Bloodborne, Demon's Souls, Horizon, God of War, that kind of thing. There's only been a handful of Xbox games I feel I've missed out on... thinking about it, actually only one off the top of my head, maybe two.

Edited by artfulscruff on Dec 1st 2020 at 7:54:21 PM

Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#814: Dec 1st 2020 at 11:55:28 AM

Literally just Halo.

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artfulscruff Since: Apr, 2010
#815: Dec 1st 2020 at 12:05:54 PM

I did enjoy what little time I spent playing Halo at a friend's house, but the game I'm thinking of in particular is DONTNOD's Tell Me Why, just because I love DONTNOD and I've played every game they've made so far except thatnote , because it's, actually, I don't even think it's Xbox exclusive, it's just not on Playstation. The 'maybe' one is the Hellblade sequel, not coming to Playstation because Microsoft bought the devs, but I'm just pretending that doesn't exist because I won't be able to play it, and I'm not sure the game needs a sequel anyway.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#816: Dec 4th 2020 at 9:45:33 AM

I got an email from my local webshop that the PS 5 was available for pre-order... which of course was sold out right away anyway. At least they try to limit it to one console per customer.

Also, the PS 5 appears to have been review bombed with one star reviews. Basically people are blaming the store for being out of stock and for grifters buying up all consoles, which is hardly fair, but of course people gripe anyway.

Edited by Redmess on Dec 4th 2020 at 6:46:47 PM

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
shadowblack Since: Jun, 2010
#818: Dec 11th 2020 at 6:40:32 AM

Too bad so many PS5s were bought by scalpers looking to make some easy money...

Edited by shadowblack on Dec 11th 2020 at 4:41:27 PM

fillerdude from Inside Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#819: Dec 11th 2020 at 2:15:45 PM

[up][up] Damn, next-gen hype is real.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#820: Dec 11th 2020 at 2:26:56 PM

Apparently so. And Yahtzee was declaring this a humdrum generation last week.

Though I suspect scalpers make up a good portion of those sales.

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powerpuffbats Goddess of Nature Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#821: Dec 11th 2020 at 2:34:07 PM

[up][up]The hype is indeed real, just that Scalpers are likely the source for most of those sales.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#822: Dec 11th 2020 at 4:25:06 PM

Create demand and reduce supply and hype will follow. That’s why Sony has no vested interest in stopping scalpers right now. It keeps the demand in the stratosphere.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#823: Dec 11th 2020 at 4:32:34 PM

Maybe, but it's not exactly good PR, so I doubt Sony is really behind that idea.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#825: Dec 14th 2020 at 8:15:00 AM

Smaller website antonline.com put PS 5’s on sale this morning, and bots caused the entire thing to crash in 20 seconds.

Over the weekend Game Stop tried to circumvent that with a “go to the store and order our limited amount for later” deal, but many people who reported sales apparently had their orders cancelled the following day.

Expect similar cat and mouse nonsense as the supply chain remains strained through Q2 2021.


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