Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (spoilers obviously)

Before Palpatine's return was confirmed and TROS came out, I fully expected the third movie to be about how Kylo as Supreme Leader becomes increasingly unstable and eventually burns the First Order to the ground, with the heroes having to find a way to stop him from tearing the galaxy to pieces in the process.

Kylo pre-TROS was a consistently a fool, and a fool with absolute power still has absolute power, can still absolutely dangerous, and can still be very intimidating because of it.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 28th 2020 at 2:03:12 AM

Well that would have been cool. But *sigh* Somehow, Palpatine returned

I was hoping for Knights of Ren to come back,some join him and others turn against when they see how he killed Snoke

Also Storm Trooper civil war

I was really hoping for a First Order Enemy Civil War plot. Didn't get it, tho.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 28th 2020 at 2:04:41 AM

It's weird. Finn launching a stormtrooper rebellion pretty much writes itself but they don't go for it.

Same. It’s weird how in Rise there’s basically only one scene of him as Supreme Leader actually directing the First Order’s campaign and for the rest he’s just the Terminator.

It explains the feeling people had after ROS.

I wanted to see Kylo go all Zork at least once

Btw any news on some of the projects. The Taika Waititi or rian Johnson stuff. Doesn't seem to have come up with any new news.

Just Squadrons coming up this week. On a plot level, we've got a plot which will include some known Expanded universe characters: Rae Sloane (for the first time outside comics/books), Hera Syndulla, I think Shriv from Battlefront is in there, etc...

Oh I was talking about the films.

Ah, then nothing. They're keeping everything pretty close to the chest rn, with them relying on Les Mandeux for a while and otherwise just trickling information about the High Republic books.

I wonder if, if not for COVID, we would've had a lot more info by now.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 28th 2020 at 2:48:20 AM

After watching the new Mulan, I just realized how Rey is just another example of the trend of Disney’s kind of faux-empowerment writing with female characters.

A very understated personality so no obvious flaws & being an instant Asskicker with a primary motivation around the lengths of “find yourself.”

Like when I was watching Mulan, I couldn’t help but think of Rey & see the similarities between the 2.

So boring but powerful.

"A very understated personality so no obvious flaws & being an instant Asskicker with a primary motivation around the lengths of “find yourself.”"

To be fair, that description applies to many male heroes.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Sep 28th 2020 at 3:35:22 AM

And they’re often called boring as well. “Conflict is the soul of drama”.

No one wants heroes who never lose. We want to see our heroes knocked down or experience enyine hardships so they can get back up and kick evils ass.

Also Rey is not really invincible.

In the last movie Kylo was just playing with her and she only beat Palpatine because the fool electrocuted himself.

On her own, Rey is just a very lucky Padawan.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Sep 28th 2020 at 3:51:15 AM

She more suffers from the whole white-corporate approved feminism, renders her really really whitebread.

As a mixed race person, I am surprised that you give so much importance to being white.

Oh race certainly affects what characters get favorable or diminishing treatment. Finn’s portrayal across three films is proof of that. :/

Yep reduced to comedic relief sidekick pinning for the white girl who just likes the bad boy more.

People Complain about Rey defeating Kylo in Awakens.

Is it because She's more powerful, not really Kylo has been gut shotted and is clearly toying with her and only is caught off guard by the Let the force in moment. 'but thats the issue Last latched onto the Kylo's a loser mentality and then everybody doubled down...

When you look at the climatic Saber duels very rarely is it a Good guy defeats badguy and the story is over.

Vader vs Obi 2 = Obi Sacrifices himself so the others will escape without.

Vader vs Luke 1 = Hahahahahhahaha

Vader vs Luke 2 = Luke effectively wins but refuses to follow through and then stops fighting

Duel of Fates = Obi wins but Qui-gon 'IE the guy probably capable of training anakin is dead'

Attack of the Clones = Dooku straight up bulldozes Obiwan and Anakin and escapes

Revenge of the Sith = Every lightsaber duel makes everything worse with each outcome, cept arguable obi vs GG but that stops being a duel really quick'

Awakens is the first time the Main hero fights the Main Villain and wins from the get go.

Its Rey's first duel, and Kylo has pretty much been doing "I can't believe its not my first abuser" shit to her all movie.

By modern standards letting Rey limp away like a scared puppy isn't gonna fly... So they have to have Rey not only fight Kylo and Win but win with an exclamation point.

Don’t forget being paired off with a black girl so he could stop pining after the white chick.

And this is why when Boyega called out Disney the fandom collectively went “Yeah, he’s got a point.”