Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (spoilers obviously)

It absolutely is how the Force works. Barely post Yavin Luke was skilled enough to sense when someone he barely knew died at short distances. Yoda could sense the deaths of Jedi throughout the galaxy during Order 66 and there were only a few thousand. Alderaan was special only for the sheer scale of death, nothing else.

Edited by doineedaname on Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:04:11 AM

If anything, Obi-Wan should have had a harder time with Alderaan, since he was in hyperspace at the time.

but HOW?

Who? If we're talking about EU stuff, again, that doesn't count.

Also, all those people you cite aren't using the Dark Side, so it's probable that the Dark Side simply doesn't have that ability.

To be fair, Sidious was able to sense when Anakin was severely injured.

Having said that, I can make arguments around it. The ability is not necessarily that precise or takes special effort.

I'd also argue some it might be easier to spot force sensitives with force sense. For example, Leia knew Luke was ok, because she sensed Luke's force presence.

Edited by Protagonist506 on Sep 23rd 2019 at 1:11:40 AM

"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"

Again, it counts.

Even if its easier with Force sensitives, that still makes no difference because Leia was there and Ren already showed he could sense her presence.

Edited by doineedaname on Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:24:03 AM

It's easier to notice something when it does happen then notice something that doesn't happen

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you

I mean, Leia was in a coma and it didn't appear like either Ren nor Snoke knew about that.

Hell, Luke dies at the end of the movie, but Ren doesn't appear to be able to sense that, either.

You haven't even told me where it's from.

Edited by alliterator on Sep 23rd 2019 at 1:26:22 AM

The same place I've cited before and you ignored.

Ahch-To is strong in the force like Dagobah IIRC which messes with sensing people.

In TCW Anakin could sense that Cad Bane was still alive after the ship they were both on blew up while he thought he was dead.

Edited by doineedaname on Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:59:30 AM

The old EU? Because, once again, the old EU has been thrown out.

No. Disney's own stuff, and The Clone Wars which they kept.

The Clone Wars has a scene with Luke Skywalker? Before he was born?

Once again, I have no idea what you are talking about.

Then you should reread my post four posts up.

Edited by doineedaname on Sep 23rd 2019 at 5:14:38 AM

Bob Iger has a Captain Obvious moment.

When Disney announced back in 2013 (?) they were going to put out a Star Wars film once a year starting wurh 2015, I knew that sounded like a bad idea.

I guess I can kinda understand why Disney thought it could work. Maybe they thought "Fans go to like 3 Marvel films a year, maybe we can do something similar with Star Wars..."

With all the memes about women choosing a bear over a man, Hollywood might wanna get on an 'East of the Sun and West of the Moon' adaptation

Also leia kinda sorta sense Han death in the force awaken so feeling other force aura is kinda a thing but it dosent seen to be something you can do on purpose.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

I read your post four up. You cited a scene with Anakin. The post I was talking about, however, was this one, where you wrote, "Barely post Yavin Luke was skilled enough to sense when someone he barely knew died at short distances." Where is that from?

Heir To The Jedi, a Disney novel. The exact same one I've cited before and you continually dismissed.

I mean, there’s no reason it wouldn’t have worked if their output was better... or perhaps more accurately if their output was tailored more towards encouraging the kind of hype and support they needed. Some hardcore Star Wars fans have this conceit that every movie needs to be his isolated event that shakes the heaven - which resulted in a lot of complaints at first - but that shouldn’t have caused the misstep it did.

It wasn’t the number of movie’s fault their big start was a false start. It was the fact that those movies failed to accomplish what the franchise needed and instead tried to fly to the sun on unfinished wings.

Something more revivals should take to heart is that, it doesn’t matter how iconic or ingrained in popular culture something is: if you’re bringing it back, treat it like you were introducing it to the public for the first time. Reacquaint the audience with the themes and the setting, put a new slant if need be while focusing on putting out the integral substance of the property - again, as if it were its first release all I’ve again.

That’s how Marvel got where they are: they clawed open a niche for their characters by vibrantly introducing their worlds on their own - if you’re a fan of these characters your experience is enhanced, but not strictly necessary to immediately connect with them in the way the movies want you to.

Disney Star Wars did the opposite: they focused on capitalizing on the Star Wars name, and expected it to be all the foundation they needed. I’ve mentioned before that Disney Star Wars is less newbie friendly than it should have been: several of the films rely at least in part in the audience already being fans of Star Wars in order to engage them.

Essentially, they rode on the hype rather than creating it, and the fuel ran out. Like DC or the Dark Universe did, they focused on what the MCU was doing and not how they were doing it.

Hell, I love Solo and have been vocal here about how it got a bad rap and why, but it’s very clear the plan to throw out a bunch of individual movies movies about random iconic characters for the audience to lap up was a bad idea for where the franchise was at. You can go wide and tall at the same time, but when you’re first starting out it’s risky, and you should never go overboard with both at once.

But like blaming the number of films is the same as blaming, say, Spider-Man 3’s failure on the number of villains. It’s missing what actually went wrong - the issue was, as always, a crappy execution of an idea that could have worked under a wiser hand.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:46:36 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

On the other hand Rouge one is pretty much that: a movie that you need to understand by watching both the original trilogy and the prequels and yet it works quite well as interquel of both.

I will said a problem with NT is it feel like a reboot that is not a reboot, with chararter that fill the gaps of old chararters(Rey as luke, or Finn as kinda han, Kylo as Vader,etc) and a universe the same as before(big facist power agains small and plunky rebels) which it force things to is limits.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"

Okay, the reason I dismiss that one is because it's part of Legends, the pre-Disney EU that Disney discarded. So it's not so much me dismissing it as Disney itself dismissing it, which is the real reason you can't cite it. I thought you had a post-Disney EU scene, like that Clone Wars scene or something, but apparently not.

I mean, you can't really cite Heir to the Empire when the new trilogy has already overwritten it.

Edited by alliterator on Sep 23rd 2019 at 2:55:28 AM

You're misreading. In his post that you quoted he cites Heir to the Jedi, a 2015 New EU Novel, not Heir to the Empire

Heir to the Jedi is EU, though it feels hokey because it was originally greenlit as a Legends product. It was rewritten early on to match the EU and served as one of the launch titles for Disney, but it definitely feels like something that wandered into the wrong universe.

Annnd 'd.

Edited by ViperMagnum357 on Sep 23rd 2019 at 6:06:12 AM

Okay, the reason I dismiss that one is because it's part of Legends, the pre-Disney EU that Disney discarded.

Its a post-Disney work, I'd said that numerous times before. You're thinking of Heir To The Empire.

Edited by doineedaname on Sep 23rd 2019 at 6:12:48 AM

Ah, that makes more sense. I haven't read the book, though, so I can't comment on Luke feeling anything, but like I stated before, it seems like of a Jedi thing and not a Sith thing.

All force sensitives can sense force sensitives.

It seems to sense others requires at least some empathy.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you

Right, but we aren't talking about sensing force sensitives, we're talking about sensing deaths, presumably of people who are non-force sensitive as well as force sensitive.