Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (spoilers obviously)

Bring back Luuke and Bigger Luke.

I just want Rian Johnson's trilogy to start coming out. I was so excited for the future after TLJ, but all that energy's been draining out of me lately...

Aren't Rian and the GOT showrunners going to work on the same trilogy?

Oh that sounds like a train wreck waiting to happen if it’s the three of them.

What would that even look like, I wonder?

So what, just one set of films after the other then? With Rian going second after D and D are done?

No idea.

If I had to hazard a guess, it'd be two tilogies at once off-set so that we have one installment every year for six years.

Pretty sure Disney said Star Wars and Avatar would have alternating release years

You know one thing I'm looking forward to seeing in IX is Kylo's apparent ideological shift. He starts the story, as do all the First Order, as essentially a scaled-up reactionary thug like the alt-right and similar groups are in our world, but after he relieves Snoke of his torso, he gives this big grandiose speech about killing the past and how none of the major Galactic factions have gotten it right, indicating h'es become some sort of radical futurist. Does he actually have a plan for leading the Galaxy under this new ideology, I wonder? Or is he just blowing smoke because... he's Kylo?

I mean... if I'm honest, I think the writers are blowing smoke because I don't think they'll actually explore the distinction between the two ideologies in much detail.

He's full of himself. He'll be basically the same reactionary thug. I mean, when he rants about killing the past, he isn't exactly coherent.

What does reactionary mean anyway?

From Wikipedia: "In political science, a reactionary is a person who holds political views that favor a return to the status quo ante, the previous political state of society, which they believe possessed characteristics that are negatively absent from the contemporary status quo of a society."

And the previous political state Kylo and co. want to return to is the Empire.

Kylo: "I see through the lies of the old ways! I do not fear the Dark Side as you do! I will bring peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new Order!"

And no, the fact that Kylo Ren is too young to have actually lived through the "good old days" of the Empire doesn't make him not a reactionary.

Explain that to all the modern-day Neo-Nazis and Confederate apologists.

Best analogy for Kylo is a neo-Confederate from New England. The guy was born on Chandrila to an Alderaanian and a Corellian. Even if Darth Vader was his grandfather, there's basically zero Imperial ideology in his upbringing or the culture of his homeland.

I mean, Corellia did have a big Imperial presence, as soon in Solo.

A very negative presence, going by the same movie. I doubt dad's childhood stories or any of Corellia's cultural memory painted the Empire with anything but contempt.

No, but I also think that Kylo thought of Han as a bad father. And you always rebel against your parents, right?

Good Lord, that is depressing. "Dad wouldn't lend me the van, so I became a terrorist."

Edited by Parable on May 19th 2019 at 11:56:59 AM

More like, Dad wasn't around for me to show off to the neighborhood kids, so I became a terrorist.

Or like "Dad wasn't around, which was a convenient excuse for me to become a terrorist"

Edited by blkwhtrbbt on May 19th 2019 at 4:15:40 AM

When Yoda was being a rebellious teenager he just...

I got nothing. I can't imagine Yoda as anything but the wizened old Muppet he has always been.