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alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
How dare you?
Sep 19th 2019 at 10:30:56 PM

I mean, by "Batman Movies," I mean "Batman Adjacent Movies." A movie doesn't have to have Batman in it to be part of the Batman Universe.

Also, of the seven DCEU movies that have been released so far, Batman was in three of them, referenced in two of them (Wonder Woman and Shazam!), his own arch-enemy has a movie coming out this year, his arch-enemy's ex-girlfriend has one coming out next year, and his own butler has a TV show, and he hasn't even had his own film out, but it's set for 2021. It's very clear that WB has a Batman fetish.

Edited by alliterator on Sep 19th 2019 at 10:32:18 AM

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Sep 19th 2019 at 10:53:43 PM

They also have a Supergirl t.v. show and a movie in development, four t.v. shows on the CW that have nothing to do with Batman or his characters, a Stargirl t.v. series in the works, a Doom Patrol show, an upcoming WW animated movie, two superhero shows about teens and young adult characters, recently did a Swamp Thing show (that was cancelled for dumb reasons, yes, but still) etc.

Hell, at least with Bo P they're doing something other than the usual characters that get focus. This will be Cass Cain's first live action appearance.

alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
How dare you?
Sep 20th 2019 at 12:05:02 AM

None of those things negate all of the Batman and Batman-adjacent stuff they have coming out. They just prove that the WB can do non-Batman stuff, but that they are still fixated on doing Batman stuff.

Hell, they have an entire day called Batman Day.

Edited by alliterator on Sep 20th 2019 at 12:05:19 PM

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
jakobitis from Lots of places Relationship Status: I'm Clockwork and she's Quartz
Sep 20th 2019 at 12:35:00 AM

And? It's not a big deal. Batman is still their biggest name/money-making. All the while that remains true of course they will focus on him more.

alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
How dare you?
Sep 20th 2019 at 7:24:46 AM

He's only their biggest moneymaker because they keep putting stuff out with him and him-adjacent characters. It's a self-fulfilling cycle.

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
Oct 1st 2019 at 9:23:58 AM

Official trailer. This just feels like a Harley movie. They should've just given her own movie or gone through with the Gotham City Sirens movie instead. The Bo P was barely in it.

Edited by ComicFan on Oct 1st 2019 at 9:24:18 AM

Oct 1st 2019 at 9:45:13 AM

Well it looks fun. Chaotic, not trying to be the next Winter Soldier or Black Panther, well-lit, and pretty much feels like DC's answer to Deadpool. Just a comic book movie with lots of action and comedy.

I guess it's not too surprising that Harley and Joker are the saving graces of the DCU.

EDIT: I've no idea who anybody in that trailer was besides Harley, Huntress, and Joker. I assume Black Canary is in there somewhere - which is weird because she's on Arrow too, and DC is usually a stickler for "characters cannot co-exist in two different mediums at the same time."

EDIT 2: Annnnd holy crap I forgot Cassandra Cain was in this... this does not seem or look or sound like what I expected Cassandra Cain to be like. Interesting.

Edited by Soble on Oct 1st 2019 at 9:51:20 AM

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slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Oct 1st 2019 at 9:48:17 AM

You mean Phoenix's Joker right?

Also the DCU's kinda been saved already.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 1st 2019 at 9:48:53 AM

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Oct 1st 2019 at 9:49:00 AM

Cass seems like she'll be vastly different from her comic depiction.

Oct 1st 2019 at 9:52:39 AM

[up][up][up]Except Phoenix Joker isn't part of the DCU, at least that's what they want us to think.

But this movie does have some promise of being good.

Edited by 123tbones on Oct 1st 2019 at 9:54:45 AM

Oct 1st 2019 at 9:57:27 AM

Is it? Huh.

Alright backtracking - Joker and Birds of Prey are the first DC films (not necessarily in terms of legal binding) that I'm excited for since Justice League. Of all characters to make me excited it's not too surprising that it's Harley and Joker with films that appeal to me.

...

It has a lot of promise of being good. Robbie's owning the role.

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Oct 1st 2019 at 10:23:29 AM

This looks like it will be a lot of fun. I do hope we see more of the actual Bo P though.

He's always been there for us, so how can we be there for him now?
Oct 1st 2019 at 10:28:14 AM

The focus clearly is on Harley. Really wondering why they sold this as a Birds of Prey movie when the group are more guest stars.

Edited by DeanCole on Oct 1st 2019 at 10:29:26 AM

Mizerous Zappy Zappy Lady from Normura Land Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Zappy Zappy Lady
Oct 1st 2019 at 11:30:36 AM

Cassie Cain didn't even resemble how she looks big worried from me about this dawg.

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Oct 1st 2019 at 11:51:14 AM

I hardly recognize any of them. Harley and Renee seems to be the only ones that look right.

eligram Relationship Status: In denial
Oct 1st 2019 at 11:56:45 AM

This just feels like a Harley movie.

Wait. You really thought this wasn't a Harley Queen movie disguised as a Birds of Prey one?

Oct 1st 2019 at 1:41:28 PM

Echoing all the sentiments. Looks like a fantastic Harley Quinn movie, but everyone else other than McGregor barely exist. Robbie does steal the show and nail the character still.

TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Much more than meets the eye!
Oct 1st 2019 at 2:40:14 PM

I doubt we should fret TOO much. I'm rather positive that a second trailer will put some focus on the Birds themselves.

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slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
Oct 1st 2019 at 2:41:44 PM

I would have preferred the 1st trailer to already do that though.

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Oct 3rd 2019 at 6:07:50 PM

Why does Black Canary "need emancipation"? I'm confused.

I agree with others who say this should have stayed a Gotham City Sirens film. Then the Harley focus would make sense, plus we'd likely have some sweet Ivy/Harley on screen.

It's a shame this is the first mainstream appearance of Cass and Huntress. They don't seem close to the comic versions, but maybe they could make it work like with Aquaman... maybe. I'm not liking how Cass seems to be portrayed.

Mizerous Zappy Zappy Lady from Normura Land Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Zappy Zappy Lady
Oct 3rd 2019 at 6:08:44 PM

Cass doesn't even seem like she will be related to the Bat Family at least not in this film.

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alliterator How dare you? from Southern California Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
How dare you?
Oct 3rd 2019 at 6:11:49 PM

Why does Black Canary "need emancipation"? I'm confused.
Harley says, "Turns out, I'm not the only dame in Gotham looking for emancipation" while the trailer shows scenes with Black Canary, Huntress, and Renee Montoya. Presumably because each of those characters are looking for an escape from their lives — you know, an emancipation, freedom from something. It doesn't have to be literal, either. As for what they need freedom from, I'm guessing that it will be revealed in the movie.

"What, you think I won't fight a dinosaur? Are you crazy? All I want to do is fight dinosaurs." — Squirrel Girl
Shadao Surprised Satoshi
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Oct 3rd 2019 at 8:56:53 PM

I do like how the trailer shows that Harley Quinn rejects the Joker but still embraces her villainous side with the intention of becoming even bigger than Mr. J.

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TobiasDrake Exposition Dragon from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Oct 4th 2019 at 1:37:15 PM

A Harley Quinn adaptation that's actually interested in talking about who Harley, herself, is as a person rather than just using her to prop up the Joker? Shut up and take my money.

She actually gets to, like, do things and have her own stories in the original source material. And the comics, for that matter. But in adaptation, she's pretty much always been handcuffed to the Joker. Even Suicide Squad, despite being her and Deadshot's movie, spent an awful lot of its runtime propping up the Joker despite him being completely unrelated to the story of the film.

From what I've seen so far, this sounds exactly like the Harley Quinn role that Suicide Squad disappointingly failed to be.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 4th 2019 at 2:38:59 AM

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