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FGHIK Mr. Speaker from right behind you Relationship Status: Halfway to Pon Farr
Mr. Speaker
Jun 11th 2019 at 10:20:27 AM

At least we're officially free from the alleged "Eastern characters only" restriction now, right?

I missed the part where that's my problem.
Naspah A pimp named V from My house in the middle of nowhere Relationship Status: Californicating
RAlexa21th Angel Flare, ready to go! from California Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Angel Flare, ready to go!
Jun 11th 2019 at 10:21:17 AM

BK formerly belong to a JP company. Now everything about them is Western.

Edited by RAlexa21th on Jun 11th 2019 at 10:21:30 AM

A lesson without pain is meaningless.
Jun 11th 2019 at 10:22:35 AM

[up][up][up] There's still the "Sakurai hates this particular main/major character for some bizarre or petty reason" rule.

Will Bandanna Waddle Dee ever get his time to shine?sad

Edited by NoName999 on Jun 11th 2019 at 10:22:55 AM

Jun 11th 2019 at 10:23:19 AM

Yeah the hero they went with for the default skin is literally the most generic looking out of them, complete with that generic name...

Looks fun, though

Protagonist506 from 'MURICA Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Jun 11th 2019 at 10:24:39 AM

@R Alexa21th Nintendo was never the sole owner of Rareware IIRC. They owned around half the company. Actually, part of the events leading to Rareware being sold to Microsoft was Nintendo unexpectedly turning down an offer to buy the whole company.

"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
fasoman1996 Sup from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Sup
Jun 11th 2019 at 10:28:14 AM

That and Microsoft thought buying Rare would get them the rights for Donkey Kong.

That's one way to get into smash tongue

Chillin' rat.
KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ from Somewhere...I think
☆♥☆
Jun 11th 2019 at 10:33:39 AM

Nintendo did own the copyright of every game Rare made under them, though. When they sold their share of Rare they also sold them the rights to all the games they made independently, like Banjo, while Nintendo kept the rights to the games and characters Rare made for series Nintendo already owned, like Donkey Kong.

fasoman1996 Sup from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Sup
Jun 11th 2019 at 10:49:57 AM

Yo, sooo....is Sylux dead?

Considering Metroid was delayed, all leaks that mention Sylux should be considered fake.

Chillin' rat.
Weirdguy149 The Shellfish Professor from Kanto University Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The Shellfish Professor
Jun 11th 2019 at 11:23:57 AM

So is that Google leak still accurate? Probably not.

If you want an expert on the dynamics of water, this is your guy.
TheAirman from Congratulations! Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Jun 11th 2019 at 11:24:20 AM

What Google leak?

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything
Not really a lord of anything
Jun 11th 2019 at 11:24:22 AM

[up][up]No. It didn't have Erdrick.

Edited by LordVatek on Jun 11th 2019 at 2:24:40 PM

This song needs more love.
32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
Jun 11th 2019 at 1:36:50 PM

I guess I'm the only one thrilled that Hero made it in. Eh, whatever; the fact that he looks like he plays how I wished Robin played has me excited.

Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.
Karxrida Double Breaker from Darkness within Darkness Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Double Breaker
Jun 11th 2019 at 1:52:15 PM

The Google leak wasn't even a leak so much as search algorithm crap.

Don't put too much stock into it.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Irene Drathe Perrywinkle from Friend Code: 1203-9265-8784 and 4571-1389-1915 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Drathe Perrywinkle
Jun 11th 2019 at 2:42:11 PM

Hero is easily my favorite of the two. And if our website is correct, one of the alts is based upon the Dragon Quest 1 Hero. Instant alt choice for me. I know Slime is part of the moveset, just as I also expected. Taunt is more than good enough to me. Looks like Slime is among the stage too?

Banjo-Kazooie is less important to me, but vastly an amazing option nonetheless.

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RodimusMinor Not actually a minor
Not actually a minor
Jun 11th 2019 at 2:43:08 PM

Dragon Quest 1 Hero is only in the Final Smash (he's the guy with the blue armor and horned helmet). The playable heroes are from 3, 4, 8 and 11.

Irene Drathe Perrywinkle from Friend Code: 1203-9265-8784 and 4571-1389-1915 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Drathe Perrywinkle
Jun 11th 2019 at 2:45:43 PM

I'm referring to this;

"Their palette swaps reference the other Heroes from the series: Erdrick's is of the DQ 5 Hero, Solo's is of the DQ 1 Hero, and the Guv's is of the Prince of Midenhall from DQ 2. The Luminary is the odd one out, as his palette swap seems to be based off of Angelo from DQ 8."

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fasoman1996 Sup from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Sup
Jun 11th 2019 at 2:47:18 PM

You know, the most surprising of the two reveals is that Luminary is the default Hero skin, considering everyone and their mother expected Erdrick to be the default. Or just the only one.

How do Solo and Guv compare to Erdrick in terms of Popularity?

Chillin' rat.
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything
Not really a lord of anything
Jun 11th 2019 at 2:51:38 PM

Well that quote isn't entirely accurate.

DQVIII hero's alt is Terry from DQVI.

[up]I don't know about the characters but DQVIII is generally considered one of the best games in the franchise.

Edited by LordVatek on Jun 11th 2019 at 5:52:46 AM

This song needs more love.
Irene Drathe Perrywinkle from Friend Code: 1203-9265-8784 and 4571-1389-1915 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Drathe Perrywinkle
Jun 11th 2019 at 2:55:36 PM

It's not really that surprising Luminary is the skin.

He's the most relevant one and known worldwide. Erdrick is a virtual unknown outside of Japan. He's too risky to use as the base costume. They want DLC to sell worldwide.

They don't even use any Heroes in DQ crossovers overseas(except in Japan only), where it's just the monsters(in both Japan and the West). The Monsters always had more of an impact in the West overall. It still shows here, as Slime is part of the moveset. It makes sense, being the Mascot and all.

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fasoman1996 Sup from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Sup
Jun 11th 2019 at 3:00:31 PM

So, are we out of leaks now?

Chillin' rat.
Irene Drathe Perrywinkle from Friend Code: 1203-9265-8784 and 4571-1389-1915 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Drathe Perrywinkle
Jun 11th 2019 at 3:18:17 PM

As of now, yes.

The best part is Tansut, when asking if it's Erdrick, got a "sure why not". What do you know, it's technically Erdrick but isn't the focus of Hero either.

Though at least the datamine makes things more interesting too. Packun Flower and Brave are literal Japanese names(the Japanese site has Hero translate as Brave via Google Translate normally), meaning only Joker had a codename related to it so far. Arsene had a codename too. So now I wonder what Banjo's actual codename is. They might be even going with a pattern of "exact name", "related name", "exact name", repeat. I'll laugh if Banjo's codename is instrument.

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kablammin45 Is it June again already? from Foxfell Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Is it June again already?
Jun 11th 2019 at 3:22:43 PM

[up][up] I reckon we are at this point. Honestly, I think all of the "leaks" were debunked today since they were all swearing up and down and all around that Erdick was going to be the default DQ hero instead of the Luminary. So now I think it's safe to say that the last two characters could be just about anybody at this point.


My belated thoughts:

  • DQ Heroes: Although I have never touched a Dragon Quest game in my life and was initially indifferent toward the inclusion of any of the protagonists being added, after watching the trailer I was genuinely excited and happy to see them added in. Looks like there's a lot of love put into their design and they look fun to play as.
  • Banjo/Kazooie: Given that they've been one of my most wanted characters in Smash for the longest time, I'm very happy and excited to see them finally be added to the game and they look like a blast to play as. Glad they're in their N64 designs as well. I was admittedly a bit nervous that they'd have their janky Nuts & Bolts design if they were ever added in.

Edited by kablammin45 on Jun 11th 2019 at 6:26:31 AM

Aw yeah! This is th' best month of the year! And not just 'cause it's my name! It's finally summertiiiiime!!!
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything
Not really a lord of anything
Jun 11th 2019 at 3:25:22 PM

I have a theory that Erdrick was the default the one for a while before they switched it to the Luminary to cash in on DQXI for the Switch hype.

But yeah there were two prevalent rumors up until this point, one had Banjo, one had Erdrick, neither had both.

We're in uncharted territory until someone finds the leaked roster on their burnt piece of toast.

Edited by LordVatek on Jun 11th 2019 at 6:26:56 AM

This song needs more love.
DingoWalley1 Make way K. Rool! The True Heroes are here!
Make way K. Rool! The True Heroes are here!
Jun 11th 2019 at 3:26:08 PM

Question to all you guys; you think Slime and Gruntilda are going to be added as assist trophies? There were shots in the middle of both reveal trailers of these two, and it looked at least like Slime was actively going to for something (Gruntilda just kind of flew around).


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