Batwoman Series set in the Arrowverse

They got the Huntress costume right . . . she just only wore it for one scene while going undercover as a stripper.

Huntress, Killer Frost and Black Canary were done justice in that they weren't dressed like they were going to the Playboy Mansion.

I suppose.

As much as I love this take on Crystal Frost's costume from (what I think is) Young Justice, I have to admit Killer Frost's comics costumes are all varying degrees of impractical for live action (especially since we're never going to see Leotard of Power in any of these shows). Caitlyn's comics costume, especially. It's an entire bodysuit of uniform, skintight latex with random icicles sticking out. It would neither envy the costumer designing nor Panabaker having to comfortably wear something like that.

That said, I didn't really like her first few costumes, as I felt like they were trying too hard with Evil Is Sexy in a way that didn't really work with the character. Her costume in Season 4 is pretty good.

CW Huntress is an awful adaptation for a wide array of reasons, like a lot of the character they adapted in Arrow's first couple seasons, and... yeah. The costume is one of them. It's not a very good costume in general, really. Super bland. Black Canary's costume starts awful and gets better over time, imo.

In general, I feel like with certain exceptions, they didn't really take "these are superheroes, they should look like it" seriously as a costuming direction until several years into The 'Verse.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 11th 2018 at 10:09:45 AM

Killer Frost's Rebirth costume has actually been pretty cool (pun intended): it's basically a sleeveless blue shirt with a snowflake on it, sometimes accompanied by a fur-lined jacket. Here it is◊ and here's a different version◊.

Edited by alliterator on Oct 11th 2018 at 10:17:49 AM

There is a great deal of variety as to what a superhero looks like. Huntress doesn't look any less like a superhero than Superboy◊.

That costume isn't particularly flattering. It's less a costume and that particular version of Superboy didn't really have a secret identity. I mean, that abomination Superboy used to wear wasn't great either, but I understood it.

I still say they could have done better with Frost's costum. And I still say they didn't do right by Huntress, Mxyptlik, or Music Meister visually or narratively. But all of that aside we come back to the point that Batwoman's costume looks stunningly accurate and I think Berlanti/whoever the showrunner is really wanted to get this one perfect.

To be fair, it's a Batsuit with a red cape and a wig, but even so.

Casting breakdowns for the series.

I was hoping that Renee Montoya was a part of the show, although I also want Vic Sage, the original Question to appear, too.

It's really a shame that this isn't gonna bet set on Supergirl's Earth, really. Earth 1 is already too crowded, damn it!

Edited by Forenperser on Dec 11th 2018 at 2:00:53 PM

On the flipside, I think Supergirl really ought to have been set on Earth-1 in the first place, though the show eventually did do a lot of things that justify it being separated from the others.

Well originally it wasn't even planned to become a part of the verse. It debuted on the CBS, not the CW.

A pilot directed by David Nutter of Game of Thrones has been ordered.

Great. Hope it airs this year.

As was the case with Kate's casting, there are now audition videos out for several main characters: Alice, Bette, Luke, and Sophie (who is the character codenamed "Sloane"). Collected here.

So far they all seem pretty true to their comic counterparts and have individual subplots (Alice is kinda broad-brush, but not wacky). If the audition scenes make it to the final show, I'd have few complaints.

Filming dates for the pilot were announced today: March 4th to 25th. Vancouver is a location, obviously, but any others are unknown.

Hmmmm, I wonder how long it will take to release then.

Sophie Moore, Luke Fox, and Mary Hamilton cast.

They’re legit doing the “Batwoman’s team after she semi-split from Batman” plot, which is interested because iirc that plot hadn’t fully completed at the time his show was proposed (but is definitely done now).

I hope that means we’ll be getting the Colony, Ulysses Hadrian Armstrong and Tim Drake.

I think that the Colony is going to be adapted as the Crows, Jacob's security firm. Functionally it seems very similar, and it can condense a lot of material that way.

Sophie Moore and Luke Fox are both direct counterparts to their comic charactes, but "Mary Hamilton" appears to be a slight restructuring of the character of Bette Kane, aka "Flamebird" or "Hawkfire." Bette (whose first name is technically Mary, although she never goes by it) is Batwoman's cousin, not her stepsister, but I guess perhaps they didn't want Batwoman to have too many cousins? Like, Batman is already her cousin, so they didn't want to introduce another cousin, perhaps.

In any case, I'm glad they cast her. I'm surprised that they haven't announced the casting for Jacob Kane yet, since he should be a pretty important character.

Changing "The Colony" to "The Crows" makes sense, especially since it doesn't appear this version of them are based on Batman's tactics (they were called the Colony in the comics because that's the plural of bats — "colony of bats"). Also, it allows them to use the phrase "A Murder of Crows," which is always a plus.

Edited by alliterator on Jan 25th 2019 at 10:40:48 AM

I watched some audition tapes for Mary on Vimeo, and she's definitely Bette in all but name and family relationship. I think you're right on for why they changed her to a stepsister.

The Murder of Crows is an actual thing in the comics; they were the group of Jacob's closest spec-ops friends who helped train Kate (and Bette, later on). If they're used here, that streamlines things a bunch.

You know what I find kind of funny? That if they do include Batwoman's main arch-enemy, Alice (or "Red Alice"), then we won't know from auditions or actor hirings, because Alice is Kate Kane's twin sister, thus would also be played by Ruby Rose.

Actually, Alice is being cast, so it doesn't seem like they'll be identical twins. Based on the audition scenes, Alice's real identity isn't treated as a big deal.

Darn. I was hoping we would see Ruby Rose acting maniacally evil, too.