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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1551: Oct 31st 2019 at 1:49:54 PM

https://metro.co.uk/2019/10/24/fallout-1st-private-servers-arent-private-unlimited-scrapbox-isnt-unlimited-10977978/

Did wee talk about this last week? If not, we need to talk about it this week.

In news you could see coming a mile off the launch of Fallout 1st has turned out to be a bit of a disaster, as fans discover that its most important features are not as advertised. Fallout 1st was announced on Wednesday and costs £11.99 a month or £99.99 a year, for which you get a private server for Fallout 76 and some exclusive features – the most prominent of which is a scrapbox with unlimited storage capacity. But as reported by various threads on Reddit some players are discovering that the private servers are not necessarily private and that other random players are able to see their instance of the game and join their world.

It also turns out that the worlds are not being created new but are instead recycled instances that have already been used for the normal version of the game, so some are full of dead enemies or have long ago been looted of anything useful. No doubt Bethesda will be looking to redress these issues soon enough, but they’re not the only new bugs in the game.

Some have found that the unlimited scrapbox doesn’t actually work and that when you try to store scrap in it, it all just disappears. And it doesn’t even come back if you quit and log back in. Fallout 76 was already infamous for the volume and seriousness of its bugs but that was when it was just a standalone game. Having to pay an expensive subscription just to discover even more problems is probably not what most fans were hoping for – even if they secretly expected it.

The ride never ends, it starts back up when you try to get off.

Edited by VeryMelon on Oct 31st 2019 at 1:57:01 AM

deludedmusings Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#1552: Oct 31st 2019 at 7:02:52 PM

Interesting news in regards to Fallout 76 over here in Australia:

https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/zenimax-to-refund-consumers-for-the-fallout-76-game

Had no idea that was even going on, to be honest.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#1553: Dec 5th 2019 at 12:55:32 PM

No new horror stories.

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#1554: Dec 8th 2019 at 7:25:08 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaoFH-S2FXE

Many A True Nerd did a deep dive into the Atom store and broke down how it's progressed since the start. He doesn't get emotional, he just lays it out and it's every bit as condemning, no, scratch that, far more condemning of the game than any hate fueled rant could be. Because it's based on and backed up by FACTS rather than rhetoric.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1555: Dec 8th 2019 at 7:28:45 PM

Why does it concern you how emotional people get about criticizing this game? More importantly, why are you assuming they ca't still be correct about their points?

TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#1556: Dec 8th 2019 at 7:37:41 PM

Embedding for the sake of it.

Mind you, MATN is a huge fan of the Fallout franchise, and there are still some moments where his hopes for the franchise shine through, like him hoping that Wastelanders will somehow bring the game back and make it popular enough for a release on Steam to bring back the game's fanbase, which is... really overestimating the current state of the game. He also tends to err on the side of optimism and idealism, like believing that Fallout First was all about rewarding already existing players, not just cashing from the remaining people willing to give money for a shady deal. But he still makes a really good analysis all around.

Dragon_Ranger Since: Jan, 2010
#1557: Dec 8th 2019 at 7:43:28 PM

I like that bit where Jon mentioned the Shop offering an item to help fix a problem Bethesda themselves created. Really captures the state of the game in a nutshell.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#1558: Dec 8th 2019 at 10:02:07 PM

Matt did a follow-up Wha Happun vid on Fallout 76:

He not only goes over the Fallout 76 shenanigans of the past year, he also starts off by providing info about 76's development that helps explain why Fallout 76 was...Fallout 76.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#1559: Dec 19th 2019 at 8:33:54 AM

Fallout 76 finally gets NPCS!

No not the wastelander update. Hackers added them in.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#1560: Dec 19th 2019 at 9:20:19 AM

Is it financially unfeasible to just shut this service down and start over? They can't still be making money or good reputation off of this game.

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
raziel365 Anka Aquila from South of the Far West (Veteran) Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#1561: Dec 19th 2019 at 10:46:30 AM

That means accepting that they did something wrong, which I do not see happening any time soon.

That said, this is historical in its own way, I have never seen before a single game capable of ruining the reputation -and possibly future- of a studio.

I mean there’s Daikatana but that was just John Romero.

Edited by raziel365 on Dec 19th 2019 at 10:49:07 AM

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#1562: Dec 19th 2019 at 5:48:32 PM

I await the launch of Wastelanders with bathed breath.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, Bitch!
#1563: Dec 19th 2019 at 6:05:49 PM

Watch it end up being canceled....

Watch Symphogear
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#1564: Dec 19th 2019 at 6:18:09 PM

Looking at the content that is planned for Wastelanders, it really feels like this is what the game should have been from the start. It's good on them that they actually delayed it when they thought they needed more time to get it done right.

Maybe this will turn out to be another A Realm Reborn?

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#1566: Dec 23rd 2019 at 1:28:57 AM

This game is unsafe to play.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Zarastro Since: Sep, 2010
#1567: Dec 23rd 2019 at 1:38:04 AM

So now not only Bethesda can rob you, but other player as well? tongue

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#1568: Dec 23rd 2019 at 1:41:54 AM

They should really just take the game offline for a few months to get everything working and implemented. Worked for FFXIV

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#1569: Dec 23rd 2019 at 2:08:02 AM

The amount of time and resources they put into XIV is insane, I dont think beth has the amount of people and actual skill to fix this one.

The actual dev team on XIV are actually really good, they just had a lack of direction and every department was doing their own thing. Then Yoshi-P is an absolutely insane project manager who played the competition then figured out what he wanted and how he wanted to do it... which the devs pulled off.

Then convinced the execs to choose the long term more expensive option AND the 'make it functional' option at the same time by essentially making two teams instead of one. One team for patch content (of 1.X but then later 2.X and so on.) and one team for expansion content with him helming both as director and producer...

TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#1570: Dec 23rd 2019 at 2:17:26 AM

I think I love this game.

Over a year down the road, and it's still giving us so much content! To laugh at, yeah, but that's still more than any other live service has given me since they were invented.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#1571: Dec 23rd 2019 at 8:08:50 AM

We're all Watchdogs NP Cs

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
raziel365 Anka Aquila from South of the Far West (Veteran) Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#1572: Dec 23rd 2019 at 12:38:48 PM

Anyone expects yet another crash in New Years? Maybe the servers rebooting your character and your purchases?

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
TheLovecraftian Since: Jul, 2017
#1573: Dec 23rd 2019 at 12:40:34 PM

New years, I don't know. You'd expect Bethesda to have learned from the last one, so it'll probably crash the exact same way again.

Wastelanders is what I'm really expecting. The bugs out of that will be legendary.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#1574: Dec 23rd 2019 at 9:39:06 PM

Uh...

Over 500 Fallout 76 players have had their (EDIT) inventories (EDIT) stolen... (reddit link)

Edited by Soble on Dec 24th 2019 at 2:40:53 AM

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#1575: Dec 23rd 2019 at 9:40:18 PM

This game is unsafe.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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