Fallout: 76 - Take Me Home, Country Roads

5 & 4 Holy crap we were only joking about it doing things like that!

Edited by Kaiseror on Dec 24th 2018 at 6:47:18 AM

Yeah, y'know, when the lighting on distant terrain isn't strobing like a rave.

Several times I've encountered light streaming from rock formations.

I was wondering if it was a sign they were irradiated.

But no, its sunlight streaming through them.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Dec 24th 2018 at 6:48:17 AM

the hits start coming and they don't stop coming and they

On one hand, it is an mmorpg. It's reasonable to ban people who use third-party stuff to gain an unfair advantage over others.

OTOH, I'm reasonably certain a lot of those mods only exist to make the game playable, not unfair. Bethesda is essentially punishing people who took it upon themselves to fix their broken mess of a game.

Also, the fact that Bethesda of all people is banning modders — not long after they introduced the whole "paid mods" debacle — is messed up.

And to demand an essay? This is a friggin' videogame, not grade school.

Edited by M84 on Dec 25th 2018 at 3:13:09 AM

This is rich. Toddy, honey, darling, open your shell-like ears and listen up - modders keep people playing your games. They fix things that you seemingly cannot be bothered with fixing, in games that you you list with triple A price tags. They make them look beautiful. They make them playable.

For pity's sake, sack whatever absolute idiot who came up with this stupidity and stop your company's headlong dig towards the Earth's core in terms of its public relations.

You know it makes sense, Toddy old bean.

For if you don't, then your company is screwed in the long term.

Damn this is fucking surreal.

It’s some missed up Goddamn school assignment.

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 24th 2018 at 11:56:05 AM

Eh, banning people from modding online games is really pretty standard. The essay bit is dumb though— I get that they're trying to look lenient, but this is just going to cause the news to spread more. And at this point they should really just write the game off and let people do what they want

I bet at least some of the essays submitted will be sarcastic "apologies" to Bethesda for having the audacity to fix the game.

Yeah, banning modding in online games makes perfect sense. If you don't, it just leads to people trolling others with mods. It happens in GTA Online too. It also prevents cheating.

Again, this is a MMORPG, not a single player game. Modding an online game tends to hurt other players' experience through abovesaid trolling and cheating.

Banning modding is fine but the game is so damn broken it seems unreasonable.

Also, don't infantalize your players.

Say, "Banned modders unless they write to say they won't do it again. One time infraction forgiveness."

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Dec 25th 2018 at 3:37:29 AM

Well, if the modders want to fix the game that badly, they could send their mods to Bethesda so they can implement them officially, for everyone.

Also, if everyone starts running their own mods, even if only to fix the game, you would get all sorts of compatibility issues that would wreck online play in entirely new and unexpected ways. And let's not even start on testing all those mods for new bugs and balancing issues.

Also, writing an essay is a pretty good idea, actually. The idea is to raise awareness of why modding isn't always the best thing for a game, especially online ones.

Serious? I mean, are you?

Man, that's some next level-level of wtf there. It isn't good enough for modders to submit their mods that fix the game to Bethesda to implement - they damned well should not have to do so in the first place. Bethesda shouldn't have released a game in this broken state in the first place and charge full price for it.

Oh, wait. They don't any more. Anything from a third off to half off depending on where you buy - for the PC version. And you get the Fallout Classic collection if you get the standard version from Bethesda itself. Which doesn't include Fallout 3, New Vegas or 4, i.e. the games most people have actually played. Right now you can get a brand new, and yeah, I typed brand new, copy from Smyths Toy Store over here in Britain for under twenty quid for the Xbox One, which is much less than half price, as they used to charge a penny under fifty pounds for the thing.

https://www.smythstoys.com/uk/en-gb/video-games-and-tablets/fallout-76/fallout-76-xbox-one/p/168384?gclid=CjwKCAiAx4fhBRB6EiwA3cV4Ksh2JfScRi-wYC3xr5uZ6zLfUShphUiBEhBsICZpquE0L_qfVYnoBRoCHS0QAvD_BwE

is the link if you're at all interested and have an Xbox One to play it on.

Okay i can see banning people for using cheatengine even if for good purposes.

But an ESSAY?

Does it say how long it has to be? How many sources do you need? Does it have to conform to MLA?

Supposedly at least one person who was banned for mods didn't even have cheatengine installed. If the r/Fallout thread post on this matter is to be trusted, people have been banned for making .ini tweaks. Basic quality of life crap.

There's not enough concrete info over what particular mods are getting players banned yet. But if it's true that simple QOL .ini tweaks are also considered banworthy...

Edited by M84 on Dec 26th 2018 at 12:15:49 AM

all of that would be good to know, yeah

It'd also be good to know what exactly is ban-worthy. Is it any mod, such as the .ini tweaks I mentioned?

Every day I am more and more glad I didn't go for the beta. I don't know if any of my friends even did. Some mentioned they would, but I haven't heard about any of them actually playing it even when it first came out.

What we've got is a barebones Fallout game that messes with lore, takes out much of what makes Bethesda games fun in the first place, relies on an increasingly old engine, is as buggy as ever if not more so (with a lot of the bugs being holdovers from an older game no less), is monetized more and more, has a chance of killing your PS 4, and modding it to make it playable will get you banned unless you humiliate yourself by writing an essay like a misbehaving schoolkid. Which would not be so bad if the patches actually did a decent job of fixing bugs. Too bad that's not the case so far.

And through it all Bethesda's reps demonstrate all the tact of Activision Blizzard's "Don't you all have phones?"

Edited by M84 on Dec 26th 2018 at 2:16:35 AM

If Elders Scrolls 6 and Starfield fail somehow, Id say this game kickstarts Bethesda's time to become a Fallen Creator at this point.

Not sure if this is worse then the Mighty No 9 debacle or not at this point.

It's apples and oranges. Mighty was a crowdfunding debacle that ended up being a stillborn franchise. Fallout 76 is a debacle that might become a Franchise Killer.

At least neither of them is as fucked up as Star Citizen.

Edited by M84 on Dec 26th 2018 at 3:05:29 AM

Oh my dear god, it just doesn't fucking end...

Weirdly, I think the game messes with lore less than any other Bethesda game. The explanation for why the BOS are there is perfectly sensible. "They were recruited by radio."

Is it wrong that I'm kinda hoping that at least one of those banned people decides to make a Backhanded Apology like "I'm sorry I tried to pick up the developers' and QA department's slack"?