Avengers Endgame spoiler thread

Article similar to the above Reddit one that lists confirmed and rumored actors for Avengers 4.

Then again, Time travel would explain seeing Quicksilver again.

I don't think they can use him, not until after the Fox deal is complete.

edited 13th May '18 10:45:38 PM by Cortez

Haven't they said before that Kang is one of those odd characters who was under both studios' purview? Kang is pretty strictly an Avengers character, and is only part of the a Fantastic Four mythos via a different alter ego - Rama-Tut - who has entirely different characteristics.

I don't know where you heard that, the only characters I know they share are:

• Scarlet Witch
• Quicksilver
• Watchers (Marvel can use Watchers as a species, but not specific ones like Uatu)
• Skrulls (Same as the Watchers, but they can't use guys like Super-Skrull)

Plus, Kang has been said to be the distant descendant of Reed Richards, who is strictly a Fantastic 4 member, so no luck...

...yet.

I really want to see Deadpool in Avengers 4. It would amuse me so much if he just shows up nowhere and runs off with the Infinity Gauntlet, even if he get caught seconds later.

I don't want a teaser of a new villain. I want this to be a surprise. Let's finish this arc first. And honestly, Marvel doesn't need this, the audience will come for the others characters anyway. And hey, Infinity War was cleaver enough to keep most of the new characters separated from each other, so the big event in which Doctor Strange encounters Black Panter and Spider-Man has interactions with the Wasp, all this is still in our future.

A thread for the film itself, and a spoiler thread for the same film, and then a spoiler thread for the unreleased film because people seem to love leaking information. I love this.

I mean it makes sense and I'd rather this than get spoiled in the main thread, but I love that we have three of them.

As usual, take it with a grain of salt, but apparently, the same user who leaked plot details of Infinity War now leaked the ones for Avengers 4.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/movies/702610/Avengers-4-Infinity-War-2-plot-leaked-Avengers-Infinity-War-Captain-America-Thor?utm_source=traffic.outbrain&utm_medium=traffic.outbrain&utm_term=traffic.outbrain&utm_content=traffic.outbrain&utm_campaign=traffic.outbrain

How accurate did those details actually wind up being? That's an important qualifier when saying, "From the person who leaked X!"

If it's the one I'm thinking of (basically the only one that mattered), that person got quite a few things right including Red Skull, Gamora dying to get the Soul Stone, Groot making Stormbreaker's handle, and Eitri but it wasn't 100% accurate (they said that Valkyrie showed up and the Hulk came back among other things) so it was likely from an earlier version (this was in November).

That being said, we have no proof that this one is the same one or that they aren't just a random person who came across correct info once and is just playing everyone for saps this time.

edited 29th May '18 12:01:21 PM by LordVatek

Good thing that the information back then was buried under so many other similar posts...it would have sucked if the red skull surprised had leaked early.

That's why I hate leakers when it comes to movies. They just ruin everyone's fun and for what? Just for being smug about being right or some clickbait? It's disgusting.

We do know from interviews that the actors were given multiple, highly limited versions of the script and acted out scenes that were never intended to be in the final movie as Foiler Footage, so it's possible some of the leaked information is purposefully fake.

Crazy prediction for Avengers 4:

So, with everyone assuming Tony is dead and unaware he could possibly return (since he went after Thanos, and Thanos of course was fine afterwardss), Pepper puts on a variant armor (basically the Rescue armor) in an attempt to either avenge him or even personally try to find him somehow.

We get a bit of Rescue in the movie, and then somewhere along the line that variant armor ends up the hands of Riri Williams, who modifies it further (a la War Machine being a spin on an Iron Man armor) to become Ironheart.

That guy had pretty much everything from the first half spot on(Loki dies in the opening, Thanos Sacrifices Gamora for the Soul Stone, Red Skull), but the finale was completely off.

He said the Titan group ends up being warped with Thanos to Wakanda and they have a final battle there. Hulk busts out of the Hulkbuster, Cap is killed by Thanos in a last ditch effort stop him from getting to Vision. Wanda goes nuts when Cap is killed and starts going Avengers Dissassembled on everyone until Mantis calms her down. Vision unleashes the Mindstone against Thanos and nearly overwhelms him while his past on Titan is shown but ultimately is overpowered and Thanos destroys him complete to take his stone. The snap doesn't turn people to dust. Everyone effected by it just falls over dead. None of the Avengers or Guardians were affected by it. Instead we'd see a montage of supporting characters like Pepper, Happy, Hank Pym, Shuri Hawkeye's family, Ned, May, Wong etc affected. The story continued past the snap. The Guardians go back to space, there's a scene of the Avengers at Cap's grave. Hawkeye is shown finding his dead family and falls to his knees.

Mid credits stinger was Ant-man and Wasp returning from the Quantum Realm to find NYC in chaos. After credits stinger was a cut to 5 years in the future with older Tony running Shield and finding out that they found "her" presumably Captain Marvel.

So assuming this guy is legit, and he DID get everything from the first half of the film right, then he was probably thrown off by the false scripts and such that Marvel put in place. Which means some of it is probably right, but not all.

Oh uh, do I need to spoiler tag any of this? I'm under the assumption anyone looking for Avengers 4 spoilers has probably seen Infinity War.

edited 30th May '18 1:35:55 PM by AJSthe2nd

And should we really believe that he has better access now after he already leaked Infinity War?

I mean, Marvel apparently sent out fake scripts and even filmed fake scenes to throw people off. And for some key scenes they didn't even tell the actors what was going on at the day of the film. There is an Interview with Anthony Mackie in which he describes the day he turned up on script and they told him "okay, you go and fall over as if you dissolve/die" and he was all "what?" and apparently than had to do it without even knowing the larger context and with little assurance that this won't be the end of his character (though he apparently gauged that based on the tone).

Supposedly they filmed a turning to ash scene for every single character, even the ones that made it.

We have some alleged promo art for Avengers 4 featuring our heroes and Thanos.

Take it with a grain of salt, maybe?

Things I see:

Captain Marvel

Hulk is in some kind of vacuum suit.

Cap is back to his Civil War look.

Widow has red hair again.

Rhodey has new armor.

That's definitely some sort of Banner-Hulk or Merged Hulk. I was hoping that would be the trajectory of his arc, given what was going on in Infinity War.

ETA: The link seems to have broken in the past couple of minutes.

edited 5th Jun '18 12:03:39 PM by HarpieSiren

Was kind of hoping they'd add Okoye or Valkyrie to the team. As it is Rhodey is the only one there who is not played by a white actor, and they're both quite hard hitting due to advanced Wakandan tech/Asgardian strength.

War Machine's armor in the promo art kinda looks like the one he had in the Avengers Initiative book.

Speaking of Valkyrie, I thought she died along with all the other Asgardians in the movie. Than again Thor did survive drifting out in space so its possible she’s still alive.

Now on the promo picture: and yet none of the television characters from Agents of SHIELD or the Netflix shows.

Seriously, I could see Quake, Ghost Rider, Iron Fist (in his full costume for god’s sake), and Luke Cage (with an all yellow hoodie for god’s sake) joining these guys in taking on Thanos. After all this is the part of the Infinity Gauntlet story where all the remaining heroes on Earth gather together, so now is the time to integrate the shows into the movies.

Valkyrie was confirmed to have survived offscreen by escorting some of the surviving Asgardians into escape pods.

Oh. I kind of missed that during the whole chaotic opening scene and was wondering what happened to her as she pulled a Hawkeye on me.

So I notice in the Avengers 4 concept art that was just released Steve is back to looking like Captain America. I'm a worrywart, so I'm afraid it's not just that he decided it was time to lose the depression beard, but rather that he (maybe unconsciously) decided he would die as Captain America because he had nothing left.