Goblin Slayer (anime! light novel!)

There are acountless of examples of real-life organisms that require other species for their reproduction cycle to work, usually various insects and parasites. Not that different from needing to eat other species to keep yourself alive, if you think about it.

I'm more miffed at the way this society functions. Why is anyone letting any women, let alone low level adventurers with barely any combat experience, anywhere near the goblin caves? Not only do they risk getting raped to death if they get captured, but they will give birth to dozens of even more goblins to terrorize people. This shit should be punishable by execution/lifetime, not actively encouraged by adenturer guilds.

All of answers to that are meta reasons though. Like, main reason is because setting is designed as "Standard Japanese fantasy setting except it uses D&D RPG mechanics instead of JRPG and goblins are really horrible" rather than "What would setting be like if it had this type of goblins instead?"

Its problem with lot of world building in different manga and anime, the setting isn't built around the thing work is based on, instead work is based on some generic idea with one thing altered

Edited by SpookyMask on Oct 11th 2018 at 3:44:02 PM

The way the Guild seems to operate means that the Guild has no authority to outright ban an Adventurer from taking a job. They also have no authority to order an Adventurer to take jobs either. It's up to the Adventurer to determine whether they can handle a job or not. And Guild Girl has tried to warn Rookies against taking Goblin jobs. The Guild even subtly warns Rookies that it's dangerous by making it so that a Porcelain will immediately be ranked up if they complete a goblin nest raid job. Because clearing out a nest of Goblins is not a Porcelain-level task.

It's a dangerous line of work.

Edited by M84 on Oct 11th 2018 at 8:56:14 PM

What's the point of doing that subtly?

From I can see from some spoilers, the government just doesn’t care

Not saying you can’t find it dumb but it seems the authorities in charge are so myopic that they only care about bigger level threats rather than the common daily evil occurrences that happen

That's a big part of the goblins' survival. They are small fish in a sea full of metaphorical and maybe literal sea monsters.

And like I said, upper class people not understanding the hardships of poor common folk is painfully realistic.

Edited by M84 on Oct 11th 2018 at 9:00:48 PM

Ignoring blights of commonfolk usually result in rebellions or economic problems though. Like if you can't defend your own citizens, you can't really govern for long

What about the people in the guild themselves? They obviously care enough to warn them, but why subtly? Do the higher-ups forbid them from actively warning adventurers so as to make sure they continue to take up goblin exterminating tasks?

Which doesn't make it unrealistic. Just not a wise way to govern.

Guild Girl is in a rock and a hard place. On one hand she wants rookies to come back alive. On the other hand she doesn't want the poor villagers to be victims of goblin raids. GS has been very welcome, but he's just one guy and he can't be everywhere and take every goblin raid job (though he certainly tries).

And again, there doesn't seem to be any mechanism or regulations that allow the Guild to ban an Adventurer from taking a job or force them to take a job. The power the Guild has over Adventurers revolves mainly around them being the ones who determine rank.

Edited by M84 on Oct 11th 2018 at 9:19:12 PM

They can probably kick adventurers out for poor conduct, too.

Adventurers who break rules against Ninja Looting and what not are kicked out, yes. Which is what happens to Rhea Scout.

What regulations the Guild does have seem to be geared towards ensuring Adventurers are good people. That's why promotion also depends on the Adventurers demonstrating good character.

Edited by M84 on Oct 11th 2018 at 9:51:39 PM

I thought they just demoted him.

Edited by Cross on Oct 11th 2018 at 9:53:15 AM

Okay, re-read it, and you're right. It's just demotion. Though it also implies that he's being re-assigned. In other words, an exile of sorts.

Edited by M84 on Oct 11th 2018 at 9:55:17 PM

Regulations or no regulations it should simply be common sense to only send male adventurers to the goblin caves.

As the story goes on, Guild Girl does start a program to send high-level adventurers out with the rookies for training, and later sets up a full training hall. But such things cost money, so it takes a lot to get it started.

This makes me think back to Order Of The Stick's goblins being made by the deities themselves to be cannon experience fodder. I think Goblin Slayer might have this attitude towards the goblins in this universe, due to the fact that they make it so they have them be the most vilest creatures around.

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Edited by Demongodofchaos2 on Oct 11th 2018 at 12:04:36 PM

As mentioned before, the big government's tendency to overlook the goblin problem is not so much an issue of moral myopia as it is an issue of limited resources and comparative threat levels. The kingdom only has so much money and manpower at its disposal, and is throwing the majority of it at fighting the war against the demons and dark gods, which is an ongoing conflict. They simply can't spare soldiers to go guard frontier villages when they're needed to hold off a demon assault somewhere or shut down some dark cult trying to summon their evil god.

Also, it's primarily only frontier villages that have a goblin problem. Being on the frontier means they're probably pretty close to the border of some other kingdom, and despite everyone banding together to fight the forces of darkness, it's more of a We ARE Struggling Together situation. If one kingdom were to send a sizable force to the frontier to defend one of its villages, it could be construed as an act of aggression by the neighboring kingdom. So there's political considerations as well.

Edited by danime91 on Oct 11th 2018 at 9:18:23 AM

That’s sad

It’s more understandable but tragic

I do second the idea even if sexist that female fighters should stay away from goblin combat

It wouldn't really help the situation since then you're cutting the already small number of adventurers that want to take on goblin related missions, giving the goblins more time to grow and kidnap more women.

There really should be more efforts still. Everyone running the world being incompetent or just plain callous is just a bit odd.

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It comes back down to the whole lack of manpower thing, I suppose. Though adventurers may seem plentiful, it's only because the story is focused on them. It's hard enough to get people to take goblin quests as it is. I imagine it would only become worse if female adventurers are barred from accepting them. It's a whole balancing act. If fewer adventurers take goblin quests, more goblins survive and grow to become a threat to villages, where they start kidnapping more women. Let women take on goblin quests, you run the risk of the adventurers themselves being captured by the goblins, but the increased number of adventurers raises the average number of goblins killed, thus lowering the threat to villages and village women kidnapped. And since the number of helpless village women potentially kidnapped is probably much higher than number of female adventurers potentially captured, I suppose that's where the calculus falls.

And later in the light novel it's mentioned that they are trying to start a training school so that new adventurers don't just get slaughtered wholesale. And Goblin Slayer is a prime candidate to teach at such a school when/if he retires from adventuring. Problem is that he's too much of a Small Steps Hero. It's probably never occurred to him to teach other adventurers how to effectively fight goblins so that they in turn have a better chance of survival and thus can go kill more goblins.

Edited by danime91 on Oct 11th 2018 at 11:20:44 AM

Plus most adventurers are in it to make money, in addition to at least trying to do some good. They underestimate Goblins both in terms of how dangerous they are and how active they are. They think that they can move on and goblins will be dealt with by newbies with no idea of the attrition rate that the new adventurers deal with.

You know outside of the Goblins, the series plays like a straight Dungeons and Dragons based anime. As said before, the part that is deconstructed are the concept of goblins. The Goblins here are a concept that comes from Berserk put into a more modern, hopeful world. In fact, I could say Goblin Slayer is never going to reach the height of darkness that Berserk has.