Sleepless Domain

...ok, that interpretation requires so many levels of intentionally misreading the story that I'm just going to presume you're a troll and ignore you from now on.

Just a heads-up, this user has had behaviour issues regarding Madoka and the Magical Girl Genre Deconstruction trope in general. They were just suspended.

Yeah, same. Having literally spoken to the creator, you're so off base as to have reached the moon. Cassidy is the only person we've seen who's this level of antagonizing, the rest of the club are nice and welcoming, HP is the deuteragonist of the story, Rue has her issues with the potentially sketchy government but is otherwise a normal person trying to help out, Zoe has her anxiety relating both to her identity and fighting, but she's clearly trying to work past them. Outside of the occasional jerk side character or an antagonist, most of the cast is really nice. Hell, everyone Undine went to when looking for a new team were super nice about it even if they had reasons why she couldn't join up with them.

awesome, thanks for the heads up.

Edited by Alfric on Feb 6th 2020 at 5:40:25 AM

Just to be clear despite my misgivings about Madoka and the wider trend about Dark Magical Girl fiction, I am not with them.

You know what, I'm not gonna lie, that's probably for the best. Thanks for the warning.

Edited by TheLovecraftian on Feb 6th 2020 at 11:44:34 AM

No biggie, sorry if it seemed like you were being lumped in with them. Misgivings about the genre is fine, but the level of vitriol Healinfine was showing was excessive, so I get why they got axed.

This isn't even the worst time I've done this.

Like that time I accidentally became a Gamergater.

Edited by RodimusMinor on Feb 6th 2020 at 8:58:52 AM

...you do seem to get accidentally involved with a lot of unpleasant arguments. Side effect of being a very passionate arguer, I suppose.

Although how one accidentally becomes a gamergater is a bit beyond what I expected, if I'm being honest.

Short story: I used to think "Gamergate" was in favor of Zoe Quinn, and that she was calling out bad standards in game journalism and the whole tag was created in support of her.

As you can imagine I had to do some quality backtracking.

Oooh, yeah, that one must have required some correction alright. Damn.

See, this is why whenever I get involved in an argument my first question is "What exactly is each side?" I originally thought #NotAllMen was something the feminists were saying, and saved myself a lot of embarrassment by asking first to double-check.

I saw someone say that their first impression of the #HimToo tag was that it was about raising awareness of male victims of abuse, instead of what it actually was, backlash against #MeToo (basically about #MeToo making guys afraid of getting accused of assault).

Edited by Twiddler on Feb 6th 2020 at 7:03:02 AM

I remember when I looked into the Topic-I'm-Pretty-Sure-Is-Banned-On-This-Board-Or-At-Least-Was-At-One-Point and legitimately could not tell which side was which.

Getting back on topic as fast as my feets will take me, I do agree with the suspended poster on one thing: it does seem to be a theme of the comic that these girls are Too Dumb to Live, not because they're female but because they're children, it seems without much real training, either, and aren't taking this as seriously as they should. Think of Chapter 2, slapstick and Casual Danger Dialog right up until Undine is lying in a pile of rotting meat. Likewise, Cassidy is being an idiot here no matter how you slice (or shear) it, either trying to get Undine to cop to murder with a silly bet, or tormenting her based on a vague sense of unease. The narrative seems to side with their optimism most of the time, but at the same time, this is a lousy system, and these kids are paying the price.

What really took me by surprise was that Cassidy came forward with this accusation (and, as pointed out above, uses "everyone" very often) after weeks/months of training and, for all we know, getting along just fine with Undine in the group. Though as someone mentioned, the others in the training club were nice so Cassidy may have just been silent and faded into the background during common training.

I don’t think it’s been that long, more like “days”.

Same.

and How so? According to HP's manager, it has been weeks since Undine and HP started working together, and if I recall HP offered Undine a place on the training club pretty much right away.

And Undine met HP within days of Team Alchemical's funeral.

Edited by sgamer82 on Feb 7th 2020 at 6:30:20 AM

Yep, exactly.

Might even have been that same night, now I think about it.

Edited by sgamer82 on Feb 7th 2020 at 6:30:51 AM

According to a timeline Cube posted a while ago, everything up until HP talls Undine about her mom takes place basically over the course of a week. This chapter started with an implied timeskip and Tessa's chapter may or may nt have taken place during that timeskip, which, from what's been shown, I think covered about two weeks (although Cube hasn't confirmed that anywhere as far as I'm aware), so I'd say we're three weeks into the story.

Realistically speaking, I can accept that no one approached Undine for three weeks after her team died out of respect or awkwardness, and Cassidy was just left to stew over all that negativity in that time.

That's why HP was such a breath of fresh air for Undine. Even if, or maybe precisely because, it was out of ignorance, HP approached her and talked to her like she would anyone.

Yeah Undine did say that she enjoyed someone not tiptoeing around her and the fact that for a little while she could act like everything was normal.

And Cassidy's claim that 'everyone' feels the same way she does feels like she's projecting more than anything else. As again: if she really believed that the others agree with her, why wouldn't she want them around when she confronts Undine?

Not wanting HP there, I can get. She likely sees HP as being 'fooled' by Undine's supposed acting prowess, after all. But the rest of them? Why not have them there for backup — not just in the fighting sense, but to affirm that yeah, they totally all find it so weird that Undine is coping with the death of her friends so well...

...But no. She can't count on them to back her up. Maybe she's bought into her own narrative enough to justify it as "Oh, the others won't say anything because they're too polite," or maybe "They'll lie and claim they never suspected her because they don't want to seem 'rude'/'disrespectful'/deal with her Crocodile Tears..."

Still, I suspect that on some level, Cassidy is aware that she's alone in this. She just doesn't want to admit it. She wants Undine to think that she's the isolated one; that everyone else is secretly against her. Because these are her friends, not Undine's.