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#3801: May 29th 2023 at 4:45:15 AM

Many people also Disagree on Finding Dory as well.

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Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#3802: May 29th 2023 at 4:50:40 AM

Mind you, they are not necessarily bad movies. It's just that they're less well-received by critics and by audiences than their predecessors, and yet made significanly more money.

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#3803: May 29th 2023 at 10:49:09 AM

It's less than 2 million behind Frozen 1!

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#3804: May 30th 2023 at 9:10:27 AM

Ralph Breaks the Internet outperformed Wreck It Ralph. Let's just leave it at that.

Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#3805: May 30th 2023 at 11:53:38 AM

[up]Another proof that it's not the good movies that make the most money, it's the sequels to said good movies.

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#3806: May 30th 2023 at 1:31:04 PM

Some fun but random box office milestones for the movie coming up:

1. It's about a day or so from earning more money than all 10 Resident Evil Movies combined. Resident Evil is the third most successful video game movie franchise in terms of total combined money, behind Mario and Pokemon. (Mario is a not terrible sequel away from catching Pokemon.)

2. If it reaches a bit over 1.3 billion dollars, the Mario movie would have a bigger worldwide gross than the 2/3/4 biggest video game adaptations combined (Warcraft/Detective Pikachu/Rampage).

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#3807: May 30th 2023 at 1:56:34 PM

Screen Rant Pitch Meetings for The Super Mario Bros. Movie (not sure if it was shared before, I haven't scrolled back in the thread).

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Edited by Snicka on May 30th 2023 at 11:02:41 AM

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#3808: May 30th 2023 at 2:21:39 PM

Another proof that it's not the good movies that make the most money, it's the sequels to said good movies.

The trend you've noticed is largely reflected in opening sales. Finding Dory, for instance, opened to $135m compared to Finding Nemo's $70m. Ralph Breaks the Internet opened to $56m to Wreck-It Ralph's $49m. The Incredibles 2 opened to a whopping $183m compared to the original's $70m.

Why does this happen? The answer is both simple and intuitive. Opening weekend is the biggest sales period for any given film, but its sales aren't driven by film quality. Nobody's seen the movie yet. Nobody knows if it's good or not. Rather, opening weekend sales are driven by hype.

Hype can be heavily influenced by marketing. Films that get marketed more generate more hype, and thus pump up opening weekend sales. Hype is also influenced by concept; How interesting does the marketing make the product look? Is it something people have been looking for? Does it seem like it's going to fill a void or offer something that's rarely found in other pieces of media? If it's an adaptation, hype can also be transferred from the source material's fanbase.

But one of the biggest generators of hype is investment carried forward from a beloved previous product. When you're making a sequel to a well-received film, there's a lot of hype baked in just from the title alone. And that translates into opening weekend sales.

Edited by TobiasDrake on May 30th 2023 at 2:22:21 AM

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#3809: May 30th 2023 at 2:29:52 PM

Critical Dissonance in favor of the critics' reactions only helps those numbers, as unfortunately seen with RBTI.

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#3811: May 31st 2023 at 11:17:38 AM

So, Mario has officially surpassed Frozen as the third highest-grossing animated film of all time.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#3812: May 31st 2023 at 11:19:45 AM

The movie has now surpassed the first Frozen movie as the #3 all-time highest-earning animated film worldwide.

Or if we're not counting the Lion King movie from 2019, the Mario Movie is the #2 all-time highest-earning animated film worldwide.

Suddenly, that Superstars track is getting more and more appropriate.

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Edited by TargetmasterJoe on May 31st 2023 at 2:20:12 PM

uncertanSearcher The Power of Toons and Anime from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
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#3813: May 31st 2023 at 11:25:15 AM

I did predict the movie to make about 1.3 billion, seems like a pretty accurate guess now.

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#3814: May 31st 2023 at 11:26:07 AM

Someone in the first week or so of the film's release speculated that Mario might be the biggest movie of 2023. I was skeptical at the time. But given the incredible legs the film has shown with its anomalously low drop rate, I think it's actually possible.

It's by no means guaranteed. Its heaviest competition are probably going to be Aquaman, The Marvels, Barbie, The Little Mermaid remake, and of course the #1 most anticipated film of 2023, Kraven the Hunter. Fast X is also doing numbers internationally, but a very weak domestic reception makes it unlikely to reach Mario's heights.

The battle for top spot of 2023 is going to be fierce. But Mario is in the running.

EDIT: Oh, Little Mermaid actually hit theaters this weekend and it's not a strong opening. Failed to even break six digits. So scratch that one off the list. It's not doing badly, mind, but it's not going to make #1 Film of 2023.

Edited by TobiasDrake on May 31st 2023 at 11:30:14 AM

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#3815: May 31st 2023 at 11:38:36 AM

There's no way it's going to beat Frozen 2 or Lion King Remake, though.

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#3816: May 31st 2023 at 11:39:12 AM

Better not jinx it. wink

Edited by LoneCourier0 on May 31st 2023 at 8:39:31 PM

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#3817: May 31st 2023 at 11:46:56 AM

It might be too late for this movie to be the number one of all time, but I have high hopes for the sequel.

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#3818: May 31st 2023 at 11:58:34 AM

Oh yeah, the film was definitely well-received enough to give the sequel an opening weekend hype boost. Mario 2 is gonna do crazy numbers when it opens.

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#3819: May 31st 2023 at 12:01:35 PM

I imagine we're going to see more animated video game movies.

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#3820: May 31st 2023 at 12:01:43 PM

> Mario 2 is gonna do crazy numbers when it opens.

I want to believe this but sequels always have a harder time living up to the success of the movie that made them a franchise,it will be successful of that I have no doubt but it won't be as successful this movie is currently being

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#3821: May 31st 2023 at 1:12:53 PM

[up]You're confusing success with quality. As has been discussed, sequels usually make more money than the original, it's just that they aren't necessarily as good.

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#3822: May 31st 2023 at 1:20:43 PM

remember that the quality of video game movies has been for a long time shite and the mario movie is an exception which is why its been so successful,a sequel would still have the same hurdle of convincing people its not another shity video game movie

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#3824: May 31st 2023 at 2:47:15 PM

The fact that people liked the first movie means that a sequel is at least guaranteed a better opening weekend even if it does suck (at which point, word-of-mouth would take over).

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#3825: Jun 1st 2023 at 5:31:14 AM

Frozen 1 has to let it go it seems.


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