X-Men: Dark Phoenix

Really is Feige isn’t some pussy-footed coward who would go out of his way to prevent the movie’s release out of fear.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

At its release, Steel was called the death knell of superhero movies, and killed the entire genre until mid 2000. Blade needed to eschew nearly every comic book aspect it could and just sell itself as an R-rated action-horror movie that happened to be based on a comic. Meanwhile, DC has a 7 year gap in their history of making movies right after Steel, the longest time between movies for them since 1978.

So yes, Steel flopped so badly that everyone stopped making superhero movies for a while, and DC for its longest while. Did you think this through at all?

Steel killed off Super man movies for sure

But like the year after it's release you Guardians of the Galaxy,Captain America,The Amazing spiderman..

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Wrong Steel.

And wrong Amazing Spider-man. The first movie came out in 2012.

I legit thought you meant Superman

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Yeah, yeah, paranoia, paranoia, don’t show the movie.

If it’s bad then let us decide, don’t shelf it like a fucking coward.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 1st 2019 at 2:44:25 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

...in 1997?

yes I mean no

I was wrong about something on the internet OH NOES

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@Swanpride

Give me a moment. It’s years old.

Edited by ManOfSin on Feb 1st 2019 at 6:05:10 AM

Steel came out in 1997. That was the same year that Spawn and Batman & Robin came out, all of which were critical and commercial failures. It wasn't the fact that Steel flopped that made the industry stop making superhero films — it was the fact that all three films flopped.

And yet, Blade came out a year later and X-Men three years later, so it didn't even stop superhero films for very long.

Edited by alliterator on Feb 1st 2019 at 3:25:56 AM

Did you miss that I addressed both those points in the rest of my post? Or the fact that DC quit making movies for 7 years?

Blade wasnt a traditional superhero film though. Outside of serious comic fans, most didnt even know it was based off of a comic and just thought it was a vampire hunter film. X-Men OTOH had more mainstream appeal (even non-fans knew the name thanks to stuff like the video games and the cartoon show) and really saved the superhero genre.

You didn't address the fact that Steel came out the same year as Spawn and Batman & Robin. In any case, three years isn't even that long in Hollywood years, so it ultimately didn't matter. We probably won't even be getting an MCU X-Men movie for three or four years.

Warner Bros (not DC, DC Entertainment didn't exist at the time) may have quit, but other companies still churned them out. Just because a Fox X-Men movie flops doesn't mean that Marvel will shelve all of their own MCU X-Men plans.

Edited by alliterator on Feb 1st 2019 at 4:28:43 AM

Just try to suggest "stop making superhero movies for 3 years" to a producer in this day and age, and see what their reaction is. I can guess its not going to be treated as small or meaningless.

When you have a lot of options you can put something on a break.

No one is in any hurry to make a new Inhumans whatever after all.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

That's because no one asked for an Inhumans movie besides Perlmutter. :V

Mileena Madness

That's because there wasn't that many superhero shows back then. Today, there are a lot and one flop won't stop them. In fact, one flop will only stop movies for that particular hero. For example: Incredible Hulk didn't earn much money, so no more Hulk movies. But that doesn't mean they aren't using the Hulk or stopped making superhero movies completely.

In any case, one flop now isn't going to stop anyone making superhero movies, so please stop saying it will.

Wait, wait, is the argument whether or not X-Men: Dark Phoenix is going to kill the entire superhero genre? I thought we talking about it tainting the franchise?

As I mentioned before, Spider-Man was able to rebound pretty quickly after his last film didn't do too well. Marvel isn't going to immediately make a new X-Men film once the get the rights to them back, so there's going to be a few years before they start rebooting them anyway. Which what they should do, as it'll allow them to figure out how to bring them into the MCU in the cleanest way possible.

Honestly, we should investing so much faith in a few Twitter posts. Look up actual entertainment websites that do some serious reporting into the film. Wait until professional reviews come in before being a doomsayer. And even if the reviews are bad, fans still might like it. Look at Venom (2018), nobody thought that film would work, and yet it made over $800 million at the box-office. Obviously, it appealed to some people.

People are wary after how X-Men: Apocalypse faltered,I can't blame them for being nervous about this film

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We're not talking about a bomb like Apocalypse or Amazing Spider-Man 2. We're looking at something much, MUCH worse. Thats the issue here, if they were just releasing a stinker on par with the new adventures of Ivan Ooze, then that would be one thing, but buzz around Dark Phoenix is way harsher.

How is this much worse?

If you are honestly saying that his movie’s failure will poison every other superhero film then that’s just fucking nonsense.

Need I remind you that Batman vs Superman was dogshit but we bounced back from that easy.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 1st 2019 at 5:08:36 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

Yeah,there's no way it can be that bad,but it might end being being fairly average,not a groundbreaker by any means

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People are actively laughing at dramatic scenes as if it were the Room. If you honestly think the absolute worst this could be is mediocre, you are being delusional.

It's not even out yet and your calling us delusional

no u

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