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WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th Since: Jun, 2013
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
#21026: Dec 4th 2018 at 10:31:46 AM

Pfft, child's play. If and when I get my hands on this game, I'm going to do as many politically-incorrect supports as I possibly can, like Titania/Fae. *Proudly walks off as everyone throws tomatoes*

EDIT: Okay wow, here's a page-topper.

Edited by WolfThunder on Dec 4th 2018 at 10:32:22 AM

The storm has now resided, the wolf now rests.
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#21027: Dec 4th 2018 at 11:05:46 AM

Related: I keep forgetting that Helbindi's not related to the Muspell royal family

Heart of Stone
ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#21028: Dec 4th 2018 at 1:02:39 PM

Which, Ironically, is one of the big reasons he's one of the best characters introduced in this game.

Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#21029: Dec 4th 2018 at 1:44:29 PM

tbh I kind of low-key actually ship Fjorm x Laevatein (post-Book Two, of course).

MorningStar1337 Like reflections in the glass! from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
Like reflections in the glass!
#21030: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:10:59 PM

Speaking of Laevatein and Lancers, I've managed to pull her and B!Hector from the legendary banner.

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
Streamer
#21031: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:24:55 PM

Did my Arena Assault run and Surtr is pretty much a non-threat. As predicted, his inability to counter at range is crippling, since he can easily be kited to death by a mage and Reposition. I did see one trade out Steady Stance 4 for Distant Counter and it really didn't end well for him. That thing giving him Guard and a stupid amount of Def is why even swords need to be wary of him. Taking that away makes ganking him little different than taking down a Hector.

FE: Genealogy Story Run 7PM PT Sun, Mon, Fri; Expert Unicorn Overlord 7PM PT Wed, Thurs: http://www.twitch.tv/kuroitsubasatenshi
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#21032: Dec 4th 2018 at 3:33:56 PM

A!Tiki can take Surtr on pretty well, though that 20 AOE damage always leaves me worried. But overall he's another reason why I tend to fear Wary Fighter over Vengeful or even Bold most of the time.

QuestionMarc Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#21033: Dec 4th 2018 at 5:43:52 PM

Out of curiosity, am I the only one who mostly ignored the support system for the better part of last year?

With how volatile my teams can get, I don't really see the point anymore.

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#21034: Dec 4th 2018 at 5:46:38 PM

That's why people would've complain about them & I will always give them crap for that piss poor argument.

unapologetically doing the following pairings

Hrid/Helbindi Gunnthra/Laegjarn Fjorm/Laevateinn

Reverse the sisters pairing & that's exactly who I ship as well. That's right I'm a filthy shipper! Also pairig Bruno & Al when that's possible.

Times like these are the reasons why I wish I could trade my units since they're clearly people who actually genuinely like these units. And then I realize I'm a hoarder.

Which, Ironically, is one of the big reasons he's one of the best characters introduced in this game.

I personally think he's the best Heroe's OC because how many tropes he defies. Granted, that doesn't & shouldn't make you a good character but it's a breath of fresh air to say the least. Which is why it's so damn disappointing to see him doing the worst in the gauntlet.

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I too love using her to counter Surtr. I also love using Ax Breaker Tobin to kill him & they say you wouldn't accomplish anything Tobin.

[up] Guilty as charged. I only pair anyone up unless it's canon or because they're the 3DS era. Nino & Eirika were the exception to this.


So going through the recent Heroes reddit survey (search for ~ opinion ~) apparently people rather have their favorite units be summonable instead of a free unit. I know there's a good chance something as stupid as Canas could happen but I'm surprise people rather take that much of a chance rather than something guarantee

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#21035: Dec 4th 2018 at 6:03:11 PM

I think it's mainly because the free units usually have subpar to above average kits. Also I think they all use existing skills for their kits, plus even with grails it'll take a while to merge them.

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
Streamer
#21036: Dec 4th 2018 at 6:14:21 PM

Not all of them use existing skills. Black Knight brought in Steady Stance 3 and Black Luna when they previously didn't exist. F!Robin is still the only source of B Tomebreaker. Ursula is the only source of Blarwolf. A number of free units also bring their own prf weaponry to the table.

I still utilize the support system for my established teams: my old Arena core (which is also my infantry core and Aether Raids core), my current Arena core (armour core), flier core and cavalry core. The rest find such mercurial placement that I don't usually bother unless I'm looking for that last tiny boost for something like Abyssal maps. This has just been how it is since Arena Assault became a bit of a focus for me. Sometimes I do set temporary supports up for my Tempest teams, though (if I remember).

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#21037: Dec 4th 2018 at 7:39:23 PM

There's still were good units being TT & GH like Masked Marth & Black Knight. I guess IV's really are that appealing

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#21038: Dec 4th 2018 at 7:48:47 PM

I don't think it's IVs so much as being able to merge to +10 (and up until recently that wasnt possible with any TT or GHB units) as well as the feeling of having something special.

With a freebie unit everyone gets them. With a banner unit you have to be lucky, and it's sort of like a treasure. Plus nowadays banner units are rarely going to be bad.

Edited by EpicBleye on Dec 4th 2018 at 10:49:09 AM

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
Streamer
#21039: Dec 4th 2018 at 7:56:58 PM

So the answer is dopamine addiction. tongue

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agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#21040: Dec 4th 2018 at 8:07:43 PM

Sometimes it feels like people forget you can't get your favorite unit on a whim like some posts makes them out to be.

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
Streamer
#21041: Dec 4th 2018 at 8:37:24 PM

Of course. That's all part of the gacha model and chasing the high.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#21042: Dec 4th 2018 at 8:37:55 PM

Anything is possible with a deep enough wallet.

Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#21043: Dec 4th 2018 at 8:46:12 PM

It took me forever to get any sort of Camilla when I started, and now I got her at 5* with Distant Counter and a few merges.

Took a while, and +10ing her will take even longer, but it's a gradual process that luck allowed.

Of course between that I had to watch people that hate her keep getting her by accident and sending her home as a joke.

Edited by Konkfan7 on Dec 4th 2018 at 11:47:04 AM

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#21044: Dec 4th 2018 at 9:03:47 PM

FEH is reasonably generous with the free orbs, it's not too hard to save up a stockpile, and the gacha is more forgiving than some others I could mention.

And some people are just lucky.

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DemonDamian Creating a new humanity Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Creating a new humanity
#21045: Dec 4th 2018 at 10:14:25 PM

Yeah, say what you will about story, power-creep and really unfitting rythm games, but FEH is actually one of the least exploitative gachas in the market. Getting fre orbs is really easy, there's no "premium currency" that makes game modes or special summoning banners unnaccessible. You have access to 3 5* units from normal gameplay, and upgrading 3 and 4* units is not a waste of time. Not to mention, the 5* rates are downright generous compared to the 1% or less you get in other games like this.

And to undermine my praise, I'll just say the Legendary banner left me with nothing but regret, 2 orbs and a 12.5% rate I can do nothing about sad

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#21046: Dec 4th 2018 at 11:04:33 PM

And thus, there was just F!Corrin.

erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Unknown Unknown
#21047: Dec 4th 2018 at 11:10:31 PM

But then you add in Skill Inheritance and I Vs, and suddenly, the gacha doesn't seem quite that generous. The former is a particular stickler because, without the right skills, you'll have gimped units.

Granted, units nowadays are more synergistic, but not all of them.

Anyway, Refines!

A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#21048: Dec 4th 2018 at 11:36:32 PM

Ylgr talks in Forging Bonds about liking to be warm and see the sun. Guess we know who's getting a seasonal unit next summer!

[up]Some units having lousy kits that they can be upgraded out of beats some units having lousy kits that they're stuck with, as is the case with the whole two other unit-gacha games I've played and also early FE. So, uh, I'm not sure why Skill Inheritance is supposed to be a bad thing.

agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#21049: Dec 5th 2018 at 12:30:23 AM

Maybe when I'm trying to play more high tier that'll be the issue, but so far barely any complaints from my end & I'm not some blind ass kisser when IS comes to their BS & how they've been handling some of these units. I don't even got a problem L!Tiki & IS's hard on for Surtr like everyone else does. Powerful, yes, but still very much beatable at the end of the day. I've seen plenty of greedy crap before & when it comes to Heroes it just not up there like some people are making it out to be.

While I'm being frank on the matter I really do hope that when Book 3 finally drops by people stop riding the band wagon & find a better game to play. I'm not saying don't express yourself but there's only so much time you can be piss off about a game before moving on & play a much better game than Heroes.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#21050: Dec 5th 2018 at 1:17:44 AM

People will complain about a game because they like it. If they didn't like it they'd ignore it and move on with their lives. I can understand if that annoys you a little, but frankly complaining about the complainers is equally annoying behavior?

Edited by Clarste on Dec 5th 2018 at 1:17:56 AM


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