Manga/ The Promised Neverland

Ah, right. Sorry. I thought it was a response to my post. My bad.

Wooo, out of context pagetopper!

Edited by TheLovecraftian on Jul 5th 2019 at 7:49:09 AM

^^I mean, you haven't seen how it continues, maybe he sold his friends as human cattle And then it pulls a "oh they are the ancestors of current cast" thing

Edited by SpookyMask on Jul 5th 2019 at 2:27:13 PM

Funny, Goatee Guy looks like Emma but his speech rather sounds like Norman (let's get rid of the Man-Eaters!)

Otherwise, I'm rather mixed… On one hand, I like the idea that the Promise came from a selfish, yet entirely undestandable motivation. On the other, I do think this flashback is rather misplaced, especially when it doesn't seem to be told from anyone's point of view…

He did initially bring up the idea of a truce till offering people was brought up by Ratri. Then he decided to go all in on the fighting.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jul 7th 2019 at 12:23:54 PM

I'm surprised that there is as much genetic diversity in the farms as there is. Given how few of the children survive to reproduce, I would expect them to be far more inbred.

Yeah, I wondered about that… They keep some adult women around to give birth, but where does the sperm come from, considering that pretty much all of the male kids are offed before puberty?

The Ratris have donors, clearly.

And they have a lot of girls to become Mamas from what we see. Some likely have kids more than once

The typical 12-year-old is pubescent. It's disgusting to think about, but those boys are without question physically capable of impregnating women.

You guys are forgetting that Gracefield harvests earlier than other plants. They could easily get DNA from the pubescent boys at Glory Bell who aren't harvested until 16.

@Omega, if half the girls become Mom Candidates, they would have to average 4 kids each just to maintain the population, not even accounting for the discards. Incidentally, this is why I think Isabella is still alive: I think they recalled her to headquarters to be a baby factory for the rest of her fertile years. Sure, they're angry about the escape, but they're not going to let that get in the way of making use of her good genes.

I imagine the majority of the kids are still mass produced, but the best of the best get special treatment for even better brains.

Considering what we've seen of the generic meat factories, it wouldn't surprise me to find out there's a similar process for the mass production of humans. It's a kinda dark thought, though, so I can understand the manga not addressing it.

We have seen conveyor belts for disposable babies. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

Sperm can be stored on ice for years; they don't need the males alive to serve as breeding stock.

Chapter out. What's with Minerva's despair there over his part of the deal.

Emma will probably have to ensure the survival of demonkind now as payment, and if Norman doesnt give up his crusade Emma will pay the price for not keeping her end of the bargain.

^^Well first one was his allies not agreeing with him resulting in him having to sacrifice them, second one was not being able to escape his guilt due to having to play the mediator between two sides for rest of his days

I assume because he is being made as an eternal reminder of how he sold out his friends by forever staying involved with the demons allowing his guilt to be constantly ever present

Also huh so these guys are main casts ancestors. Male-Emma is just Emma’s great great great great great great great great great grandpappy.

Emma’s was is actually pretty workable. As long as Musica is alive to cure the demons of their need to consume humans, the two species don’t need to interact with each other.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 12th 2019 at 3:44:11 AM

Problem would be the warlike or human craving Demons though.

Maybe asking for Demons to no longer require humans to eat or hate the taste would work better.

Hmmm... I'd like this chapter a lot more if it didn't make it so explicitly clear that Ratri's choice was the morally wrong one, and that he was aware of it but cowardly sold all the people he cared for. I'd have liked a little more ambiguity on his side of the story, especially since Ratri had some understandable reasons to want to strike up a bargain, even if he was an asshole about it. The way it is, it feels a bit cheap, like the story's trying to tell us the lesson of "don't sell the people you care about to demons for not agreeing with you". Not that the chapter is bad, but that kinda bugs me.

And now we have the first part of Emma's proposal, which Scribbly God has accepted. Now to see the price, which will presumably involve Norman in some manner. Either he, Emma or both will have to go down, although I hope this doesn't get solved too simply.

Yeah I uh don't know what they expected me to think but I doubt they'd win a war with Lewis around and in his prime. So while I should see it as the wrong choice I don't. Not unless they had ideas of their own about trying to get things to work that wouldn't get them all killed like all of his men did.

I think being forced to endure a life as gatekeeper is a fitting price regardless though.

I don't mind. He's clearly devastated about it and his pals had very good reasons to reject the deal. But the story also makes it clear that his tireness of the war was all too understandable.

But man, Scribbles really is a lot like FMA's Truth…

His equivalent exchange does do exactly what he vows at least.

Which in FMA Ed and Al realized was bollocks by the end.

How did I miss two chapters?

Scribbles sure doesn't disappoint, despite his look he conveys a presence befitting his station. We really get the feeling that the characters are dealing with a godlike being.

The flashback was interesting. I have to admire Scribbles sense of humor - Ratri sold other because he was tired and wanted to put the whole thing behind himself and damn anyone else, so instead he and his clan must eternally guard the passage, with no respite. The look on his face was priceless.

Now, the interesting thing is what will Scribbles ask for. He seems really big on irony and that never bodes well when dealing with a god. It's a safe bet that it won't be something that Emma can or will provide, at least right now, since that'd be pretty anticlimactic resolution. The worrying thing is that Scribbles wants what important for the other party. So yeah, this whole thing will probably not end well.

So, the official translation has Emma asking to move "the children in the farms" and all I could think was that I really hope Scribbles is going to interpret that to include the whole human population.

And the queen wanted to use the food supply to have greater control over the populace, so now she has to use the food supply to symbolically give Scribbles a position over her. It's good shit.

Spitballing what Emma's price will be, maybe she has to be the one human who stays in the demon world? That way she'd be giving up her dream of escape and getting to live in peace with her family.