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Kakuzan Let memes die. Kill them, if you have to. from Knock knock, open up the door, it's real. Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#21876: Jul 16th 2018 at 8:08:40 PM

Is it worth it to grail gold Servants? A few people elsewhere have said it is better to got with the lower tier Servants.

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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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#21877: Jul 16th 2018 at 8:10:38 PM

Apparently Gold Servants have higher potential for increased damage and health so it’s actually reccomended to Grail the 5*

You can Grail 4*, which at level 100 gets you the equivalent of 90 leveled 5* so 100 leveled 5* are superior gameplay wise

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#21878: Jul 16th 2018 at 8:49:32 PM

Which is fine, but a 5-star needs 5 grails to get to 100, while a 4-star needs only 2 to get to 90. For me it's more cost-effective to use it on 4-stars. FOR THE KURO LOLI!

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#21879: Jul 16th 2018 at 9:15:29 PM

Kakuzan: Any given rarity of Servant at 100 will generally be about as strong as the next tier at their normal maximum. So an SR at 100 is about as powerful as an SSR at 90 and a R at 100 is about as strong as an SR at 80. The relative gains they get are superior to what a higher tier Servant gets but the absolute gain is inferior.

As such, in terms of gameplay, unless it's a very good SR then you'd basically always be better off grailing an SSR, unless it's someone like Scheherazade.

SCM: Sure, but Kuro's stats at 90 are not as high as an SSR at 90. To get matching stats you'd need seven grails. Her kit is really good, though.

Anyway, Fran isn't one of my top top favorites but she's cute and I like how she's way smarter than you'd think of someone that can barely speak.

Edited by Arha on Jul 16th 2018 at 11:17:18 AM

Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#21880: Jul 16th 2018 at 9:21:24 PM

Camelot 2 banner for NA and 1/2 AP off all free quests for NA for those people who really need chains/medals

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#21881: Jul 16th 2018 at 9:25:44 PM

Man, we haven't had half AP free quests in forever on JP. For all I know that was the last one for us too!

Edited by Arha on Jul 16th 2018 at 11:27:35 AM

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#21882: Jul 16th 2018 at 9:41:38 PM

The half-off ember gatherings have been very good to me. I think I've solved my Camelot problem of not having enough high level Servants. I have at least two of each class at 80+, except for Ruler and Avenger.

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#21883: Jul 16th 2018 at 9:41:47 PM

Yes, but one SSR at 100 versus 2 SR at 90 and one at 85, all at the cost of 5 grails. While theoretically the SSR would hit harder, realistically even if you do get enough cards for an extra attack, there's no guarantee it'll be for your SSR.

Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#21884: Jul 16th 2018 at 9:46:43 PM

[up][up][up] IIRC, didn't they do one solely for EOR free quests?

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#21885: Jul 16th 2018 at 10:06:51 PM

^^ Yeah, but you can only have three Servants in your front line and one of them will probably be from friend support. And often it's better to have two support Servants for one attacker rather than two attackers and one support. So make one Servant as strong as possible rather than halfassing two second raters. If you don't get the right card draw you use that time to help set up for your attacker by, for example, getting out Waver/Merlin/Tamamo's NP or building an Arts chain or whatever.

Or better yet, since there's like thirty grails possible at this point go ahead and work on all your SSR favorites! If you roll them, obviously.

^ ...Maybe? But if they did I wouldn't have cared.

Edited by Arha on Jul 16th 2018 at 12:09:26 PM

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#21887: Jul 16th 2018 at 10:33:53 PM

I was honestly hoping that they would have put Bedivere in the second Camelot banner. They made entire new banner to have Medea Lily early, so I was hoping that maybe they would add Bedivere here.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#21888: Jul 16th 2018 at 10:35:11 PM

More downtime, I guess.

A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
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#21889: Jul 17th 2018 at 2:05:04 AM

The usual 12 Quartz will be distributed for tomorrow's stream when 70,000 retweets are reached.

Edited by Nouct on Jul 17th 2018 at 2:07:27 AM

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#21890: Jul 17th 2018 at 4:45:01 AM

Chain farming, here I come.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#21891: Jul 17th 2018 at 4:51:35 AM

Farming has never been so chill.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th Since: Jun, 2013
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#21892: Jul 17th 2018 at 4:55:26 AM

[up] Some chill music for chill farming.

The storm has now resided, the wolf now rests.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#21893: Jul 17th 2018 at 5:02:37 AM

I have been farming so much these past few days cause of this game on the phone & Warframe on my console.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
32ndfreeze from Australia Since: Mar, 2012
#21894: Jul 17th 2018 at 5:12:41 AM

I want the anniversary way more than Lostbelt 2 right now. Although I admit the 30-40 Quartz~ from Stream + Maint + Quests will be nice.

I've got 3-4 Servants to level, plus I want to stock up on Gold XP so I can do some grailing.

This grail talk made me realize I have a lot of surplus grails, while I only need to keep 5 around in case I roll Illya in the future.

And its been I think a bit under 2 years since I last used one, so I've gotten lots of servants since then.

"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome Rob
Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#21895: Jul 17th 2018 at 5:18:31 AM

Oh yeah anniversary is probably gonna have EOR memorial quests now that's done

Phenex will be way less annoying to fight now that I have Jalter

JoieDeCombat Since: May, 2009
#21896: Jul 17th 2018 at 5:52:30 AM

I tossed some SQ at the 1st anniversary rate up while it's on America, and came away with Lion Edison, Helena, and Rama.

I assume this means I will get absolutely nothing from the Camelot 2 and Chaldea Summer banners, but honestly I wanted Rama more than anything from those so hey.

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#21897: Jul 17th 2018 at 6:10:45 AM

Was reading this and this bit quoted below caught my attention because it got me thinking about Raikou's inner conflict with Ushi-Gozen and how she tried to terminate her demonic side by getting Ushi-Gozen to incarnate but it ended up backfiring against her.

Oni representing the darkness in the human heart were "caught" with words and brought forth as an "other" seperate from the heart. The search for a concrete representation of this "other" made oni into something visible and thus part of society

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded toβ€” WANK!
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#21898: Jul 17th 2018 at 9:14:41 AM

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#21899: Jul 17th 2018 at 9:35:08 AM

Bryns time to shine.

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alekos23 𐀀𐀩𐀯𐀂𐀰𐀅𐀑𐀄 from Apparently a locked thread of my choice Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#21900: Jul 17th 2018 at 9:46:02 AM

Sigurd's a mess.

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