Fate/Grand Order

So should I have Scathach in my Lancer slot or Tamamo? Scathach is at 8/10/6 while Tamamo is at 6/6/6, but Tamamo is NP5. Also should I go with Golden Sumo, Halloween Princess, or Holy Night Supper? All MLB.

Edited by danime91 on Dec 19th 2018 at 9:10:48 AM

If it isn't an event nobody will care. Only slots people will really look in are All, Caster and maybe Berserker 95% of the time.

IIRC isn't the team referred to as being from North Africa? INB4 it was just Cleo and Nitocris

It's just Africa in the text, I think - sorry, I paraphrased a little. And according to Bradamante's myths, Ruggerio was born in Libya, so after seeing that the game suggested that he had been on the team, I put in the North bit. Because there were like 100 teams, supposedly, so there had to be more contestants from Africa, right?

...Right, DW?

might wanna ask TM for that instead.

TM: what is a africa?

Alt joke: "We couldn't find any results for Africa. Did you mean Japan instead?"

As much as I bitched about wanting Black representation, these guys don't exactly have good track records with dark-skinned people, do they?

Edited by erazor0707 on Dec 19th 2018 at 10:06:43 AM

I wouldn't expect much. Wider world knows about Shaka and maybe Musa Keita, but names of Mwindo, Sundiata and Nzinga are empty fart to them. So no recognizability to motivate their inclusion. Not to mention that many people wouldn't appreciate african characters using term 'master'. And since so many people would have such strong connection with african heroes to feel represented by them, TM may feel stifled while developing african heroes.

Also I love that◊ painting.

She: "Ugh, are these theatrics like necessary? It's a fat lizzard, gosh. You're like totally embarrassing me here, man."

I look at Darius and wonder if I even want to see them attempt to make African Servants. As cool as a Shaka Zulu or Anansi Servant would be.

I always wonder why dragons in those medieval/Renaissance paintings are always so small. Like, what exactly is fearsome about a dog-sized lizard? Even if it can breathe fire.

Edited by danime91 on Dec 19th 2018 at 10:13:44 AM

Are we speaking from a global or a Japanese perspective? Because there are a lot of figures I didn't know of or about until FGO. Don't know about the rest of you.

You could make them say something else. Captain, chief, commander, or just boy/girl.

If they can do Geronimo just fine, they can do African heroes well.

The kicker is if TM feels like putting in the work to do it.

Edited by erazor0707 on Dec 19th 2018 at 10:21:05 AM

That would be blatant exception and, lacking Watsonian explanation in many cases, could bring audience out of experience. African heroes who fought and suffered from europian expansion would certainly avoid racially sensitive language, but why would heroes from before that era have any reservations from calling Ritsuka a master? What is Mwindo's in universe reason to get squeamish from saying 'master' when just as or even more royal, arrogant and famed heroes don't think much of it? And how about instances when it would be plain hypocritical? How can Mansa Musa, slave trader himself, avoid calling Ritsuka his master without immediately becoming unlikable?

There is no question is they can. Question is if they'll have have fun while doing it.

Edited by Prany on Dec 19th 2018 at 11:02:07 AM

It's not like they would be any unique in that. Nero calls them praetor/performer/maestro/socio/whatever-people-are-translating-Sousha-as, Tamamo calls them husband, Nightingale calls them commanding officer, etc. It's not difficult to come up a title to go instead of Master and it's not a quirk people tend to question too much.

Heck doesn't Cursed Arm call you Lord Mage?

He does! It's widespread enough that I don't really question it when a Servant uses a mode of address other than "Master" - it doesn't, at least for me, require a specific in-game explanation unless it's something really off-kilter.

After Reindeer and Mommy, what else is new?

Edit: Also, I take a little exception to the fact that someone raised in Lybia apparently doesn't count as "African".

If what you meant was that the legend that spawned the character was of European origin rather than anywhere in the African continent, however, that's something else.

Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 19th 2018 at 5:34:35 PM

So, out of all the cultures/myths covered by Fate, who would you say lacks a well made Servant?

Dinosaurs.

Non-mammals in general.

We should totally have a lost belt with (non-avian) dinosaurs.

Detroit.

i wouldve said the moon but then i remembered CCC exists

Maybe Shaka could call us something like Spear Brother or Ally, I can understand apprehension on his part to call us master since his people were on the end of the English’s ambitions. (Which makes me think he could have something of a beef with Waver, maybe with the Knights or Boudicca but that might be exaggeration).

@ blueace

Precolumbian America or just Native descended America.

Geronimo also is really not very good as a Servant. His skills aren't very good and his NP is mediocre. Let's get some other American native Servants who are actually decent, maybe some South/Central American Servants who aren't deities. Montezuma or something like that.

Re Fate's sensitivity: We have literally just had an event that stars an Aztec goddess who speaks Spanish

Who is also white and blonde. And speaks Spanish rather than something native like Quechuan. Your point being?