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MetaflarePrime Yubi yubi! from Bed Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#29351: Dec 12th 2018 at 1:21:00 PM

her niche is waifu bait but shes not even bait cause you cant roll for her

"Have a good day. Have a good week. Have a good month. Have a good year. Have a good life." ~Civia
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#29352: Dec 12th 2018 at 1:24:11 PM

I mean, she has some of the best defensive skills in the game and has 0 cost. It says something that she is still one of the best units 3 years into the game fuck the tron suit

Our kohai is doing her best to make sure we don't die many painful deaths.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Dec 12th 2018 at 4:25:23 AM

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#29353: Dec 12th 2018 at 1:24:21 PM

I don't think Avenger was ever just Angra Mainyu, the only classes thus far that have a single representative are Shielder (Galahad) Saver(Budha) and Moon Cancer (BB)

Seeeeeeenpai! What did I tell you to call me?

sigh BB-chan

[up][up]Since when? Mash hold a prideful spot as one of the best 4* supports since Camelot gave her a powerup.

If you don't like the character, bt all means go ahead (down that cliff, specifically), but you can't just ignore facts like that.

Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 12th 2018 at 7:20:35 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#29354: Dec 12th 2018 at 1:26:27 PM

Sooner or later, Mash is going to fight BB for title of best Kohai. There can only be one after all.

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Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#29355: Dec 12th 2018 at 1:28:44 PM

it'd be nice if shielder could at least branch out like moon cancer and get a np that does something else besides defense

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#29356: Dec 12th 2018 at 1:33:03 PM

Wasn't Shielder just a name Olga Marie randomly made up because Galahad never told Mash what Class he was?

erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#29357: Dec 12th 2018 at 1:34:46 PM

Leondias can qualify as Shielder, so it's not like it has exclusivity in lore.

They just haven't released another.

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Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#29358: Dec 12th 2018 at 1:42:12 PM

Achilles is mentioned to qualify for Shielder in the Apo mats

Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#29359: Dec 12th 2018 at 2:16:41 PM

Double post but re: Avenger, yeah it was never just Angra Mainyu's class as it's mentioned in UBW, day 12

If true heroes are those who have legitimately earned the title, these are a different kind. They were forced to the throne of heroes because of their fate, and they should be called Avenger, the anti-hero. They are the opposite of heroes, but they were praised as heroes regardless. Even those that hated humans and those the humans hated are summoned as guardians.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#29360: Dec 12th 2018 at 2:22:26 PM

Nah, BB is Hakuno's kouhai, Ritsuka's just the second-rate subistitute until she can reunite with him.

raziel365 Anka Aquila from The Far West Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
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#29361: Dec 12th 2018 at 2:26:53 PM

Tangent here, for those playing JP, is there any chance that Quetz's tournament ends up in a Surprise Creepy scenario?

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HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#29362: Dec 12th 2018 at 2:34:21 PM

Why do you want to ruin Christmas, raziel? It's a time for joy! So be joyful, dammit!

Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 12th 2018 at 7:34:36 AM

MetaflarePrime Yubi yubi! from Bed Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#29363: Dec 12th 2018 at 2:35:31 PM

nah the xmas events in this are usually surprise heartwarming or just for funsies

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Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#29364: Dec 12th 2018 at 2:36:22 PM

Might be reading too much into it but Evil Quetz having a spider web pattern for her mask stood out since I don't think Quetzalcoatl had any associations with spiders in legend

Edited by Nouct on Dec 12th 2018 at 2:37:06 AM

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#29365: Dec 12th 2018 at 2:38:45 PM

Until she installs Pele during Summer and becomes crazy about him, while she also goes back to her tormenting of Robin Hood because of her extremely repressed desire to fuck Robin Hood which she indulges by tormenting him like a schoolboy who pulls the pigtails of the girl he likes.

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raziel365 Anka Aquila from The Far West Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
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#29366: Dec 12th 2018 at 2:42:48 PM

Maybe it's because I'm still going down from Babylonia's story, but I thought that Quetz's half being split between her kind aspect and her ruthless aspect might make her regain her penchant for what the Aztecs were infamous of doing.

That, and making Christmas creepy would be a reminder of how dire the situation currently is; or maybe we can save that for when the last Losbelts come around next year.

Edit:

Sorry if this came out as unnecessarily edgy.

Edited by raziel365 on Dec 12th 2018 at 2:44:37 AM

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#29367: Dec 12th 2018 at 2:44:30 PM

It's another flashback event back at Chaldea though so

currently dreading the writers trying to Ass Pull a reason why Lostbelt!Ivan would even be around in the first place

Edited by Nouct on Dec 12th 2018 at 2:45:09 AM

raziel365 Anka Aquila from The Far West Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
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#29368: Dec 12th 2018 at 2:47:02 PM

Didn't last summer event ended up with the discovery that BB had fused with Nyarlathotep?

Edited by raziel365 on Dec 12th 2018 at 2:48:19 AM

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#29369: Dec 12th 2018 at 2:53:35 PM

She fused with Pele. Nyarly gave her power. So BB went from a Sadist who liked when people fought back to a Super Sadist who would fuck an entire pen of pigs if you set them before her and drive her senpai to madness<3.

[down] Eh this isn't the same discussion. Just explaining exactly what went down in Summer to Raziel concerning BB.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Dec 12th 2018 at 3:00:29 AM

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erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#29370: Dec 12th 2018 at 2:57:33 PM

How'd we get back on this?

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#29371: Dec 12th 2018 at 2:59:41 PM

ehh honestly only parts of the actual confrontation when the jig was up were the only legit disturbing things about the whole Nyarly thing

and IIRC, almost immediately after beating her, the next story segment is all about waaaaahhh BB doesn't want her spray tan anymore and everyone acts somewhat blase now that they've beaten her

raziel365 Anka Aquila from The Far West Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
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#29372: Dec 12th 2018 at 3:01:33 PM

[up][up]

A bit...of speculation derailed by the details?

Edited by raziel365 on Dec 12th 2018 at 3:01:55 AM

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#29373: Dec 12th 2018 at 3:02:07 PM

So, as usual,I am confused about Nasu's worldbuilding.

In Babylonia, Ishtar claims that the gods created humanity as kind of a giant labor force for themselves. Fine, sure. That would suggest that the gods are manifestations of Gaia's laws that predated humanity, and that also makes sense in regard to humanity/Alaya growing independent of Gaia coinciding with the end of the Age of Gods.

But a bunch of sources also state that the gods are given form by the belief and perception of humanity. And we can clearly see in the story that some gods are altered based off humanity's perception of their legend.

So which is it? You can't have it both ways, Nasu. Did the gods create humans or vice versa? Which predates which? Or are there two different sets of gods?

raziel365 Anka Aquila from The Far West Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
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#29374: Dec 12th 2018 at 3:06:44 PM

Ok, the bit about the humans being a servant race for the gods is what Mesopotamian mythology believed around their relationship with the gods, with humanity being indirect descendents of Kingu since the clay used to make mankind had Kingu's blood.

The other bit of the gods is, I think, better explained in Extella; honestly, I have my theories but I'd rather wait for the fifth Lostbelt since they can come off as Abrahamic-centric.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#29375: Dec 12th 2018 at 3:07:14 PM

Concept Gods came first. Then humans. Then human belief making Gods. A number of which are Bunreis/Echoes/Incarnations of older Gods that predate humans.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Dec 12th 2018 at 3:08:19 AM

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