Men in Black General Thread

ThriceCharming Red Spade, Black Heart from Maryland Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links

Red Spade, Black Heart

#76: Jun 23rd 2019 at 10:51:14 PM

I was very let down by this movie. It's not godawful but I didn't think it was very clever or funny.

Incidentally, I think MiB3 is the best in the series, followed by the original, then MiB2 (it has its moments), then this.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon

#77: Jun 24th 2019 at 2:58:57 AM

So, reportedly there was some conflict behind-the-scenes that might have affected the how the film turned out.

Where the conflict seems to have been centered is between director F. Gary Gray (The Fate of the Furious) and producer Walter Parkes. Apparently the two clashed on the vision for the movie, which was written by Art Marcum and Matt Holloway (Iron Man/Transformers: The Last Knight), with early drafts that were “edgier” and tied the story to the current debate surrounding immigration. However, Parkes had final cut on the film and oversaw several re-writes that stripped away at the more modern sensibilities that brought Thompson and Hemsworth into the project and created confusion, because they were getting new pages every day.

It got so bad that they apparently hired their own dialogue writers to try and make something work. One of the complaints I’ve heard is that the movie doesn’t really take advantage of the chemistry and charm of Thompson and Hemsworth’s friendship. If this constant stream of re-writers is factual, then that probably explains why they weren’t being used to the best of their abilities.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013

#78: Jun 24th 2019 at 7:57:26 AM

What is it with producers clashing with directors and orchestrating bad re-writes?

First Hellboy, and now this? Come on you guys, back off.

ThriceCharming Red Spade, Black Heart from Maryland Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links

Red Spade, Black Heart

#79: Jun 24th 2019 at 8:15:59 AM

You can absolutely see traces of that immigration plotline. That picture of the alien Ellis Island is very conspicuous.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013

#80: Jul 9th 2019 at 7:47:49 PM

More bad news for the MIB:

Rip Torn, Zed from the first 2 Men in Black movies, has passed away at 88 years old.

https://comicbook.com/movies/2019/07/10/men-in-black-star-rip-torn-has-died/

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world

Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar

#81: Jul 9th 2019 at 7:59:57 PM

Well, at least it seems that International will break even.

Edited by dRoy on Jul 10th 2019 at 12:00:32 AM

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here

#82: Feb 10th 2024 at 9:03:49 PM

I had to go looking for this song after humming it after work and finally learned it was "Empire State of Mind."

The part that gives me chills is Alicia Keys' chorus. It also gave me a new appreciation for this scene as a beautiful wrap up for Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones' characters.