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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#3201: Aug 18th 2018 at 3:34:11 PM

He lost points mainly for moving people before checking how badly they were injured. Doing that to someone with, for example, a spinal injury is a really bad idea.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#3202: Aug 18th 2018 at 3:35:26 PM

The test is pretty damn complex even if it looks simple at first.

Ya be very patient & careful in a chaotic situation.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#3203: Aug 18th 2018 at 4:00:58 PM

i been rather quiet on it until now because i literally had to watch Ducktales premieres after the MHA ep and THEN go to a con all day! So I can now say that I am more enjoying this test more than the first one. The performers standing in for the people in distress were so funny in how they appeared, and also how that one performer effortlessly switched between an angry instructor and a helpless little kid.

Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#3204: Aug 18th 2018 at 5:39:20 PM

Considering they are judging their ability to save lives, they better be strict. One mistake can easily cost someone their life.

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#3205: Aug 18th 2018 at 5:41:23 PM

…Still, I wonder what the fake victims are paid for when there's no exam going on. >.>

Aaaaand yet ANOTHER filler next week, for the movie I assume. Yippee.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#3206: Aug 18th 2018 at 5:46:18 PM

It’s actually for a nationwide charity thing in Japan that can’t be avoided.

It was either a special episode or no episode at all.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 18th 2018 at 5:48:26 AM

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#3207: Aug 18th 2018 at 6:02:00 PM

It could be worse.

It could be a mineta episode

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#3208: Aug 18th 2018 at 6:19:24 PM

It helps that this test is less structured than the other one.

That said, i'm sure a real distressed person will never correct how you're approaching the rescue scene, so I hope the main characters can handle situations in real life after this.

Deku surprised me by forgetting one important, significant moment that made him idealize All Might from the beginning: act confident, smile, and assure them that he's here! I was shocked! Deku, you should be more on your guard. :)

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#3209: Aug 18th 2018 at 6:20:55 PM

[up][up] I would love a Mineta episode that gives him some actual Character Development similar to the fight against Midnight.

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Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#3210: Aug 18th 2018 at 6:21:12 PM

[up][up][up][up] Oh… can't be helped then. I wonder if it will look like the end-of-episode messages we used to get in old Western cartoons. tongue

Edited by Lyendith on Aug 18th 2018 at 3:23:12 PM

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#3211: Aug 18th 2018 at 6:23:54 PM

I'm just relieved it won't be like another clip show, or some character talking at a desk like an infomercial.

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#3212: Aug 18th 2018 at 8:45:29 PM

That said, i'm sure a real distressed person will never correct how you're approaching the rescue scene, so I hope the main characters can handle situations in real life after this.

So, I do a thing where I pretend to be sick so that medical student can demonstrate their ability to deal with an actual human patient. They are graded not just on whether or not they correctly diagnose me, but also on their ability to put me at ease and explain to me what's going on, and so on and so forth.

This experience made this episode painful for me to watch, because if I did what these guys do, and just break character to explain exactly what the candidate did wrong every time they made a mistake, I would be extremely fired. And not just because I'd be giving away the answers to a test; I'd also be wasting the candidate's very limited time and undermining their concentration.

Edited by Gilphon on Aug 18th 2018 at 11:48:46 AM

Kotomikun Since: May, 2014
#3213: Aug 18th 2018 at 10:19:23 PM

[up] Yeah. I guess maybe since this is the second phase it's partly supposed to be training in addition to a test, but the lengthy lecture Midoriya got from fake-toddler-guy gave his group a big advantage for no reason. Airbender-man only got yelled at for individual mistakes. I know it's an exposition thing, but they had Aizawa and joker-woman for that.

The "help us company"(?) concept seems kind of weird in general; isn't it kind of dangerous to have living humans act as distressed citizens for inexperienced superhumans to rescue? The guy under the rubble criticized Ochako for almost making it collapse on top of him; what was his plan if she actually did that? Surely they could just use dummies/mannequins? That way no one will die because of some bonehead who got through the first round but knows nothing about disaster relief, and none of them will give instructions to the people being tested.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#3214: Aug 18th 2018 at 10:21:41 PM

It strikes me as a bit weird to assume the HUC people haven't been told to comment on what's happening, especially since they're apparently doing the point deductions.

Edited by LSBK on Aug 18th 2018 at 12:41:48 PM

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#3215: Aug 18th 2018 at 10:42:19 PM

To further draw own my own personal experience, a candidate trying to do something that's genuinely painful to me is the one time I am allowed to break character. So I'd assume they'd similarly stop it before something lethal happens.

However, given that these people are professionals in a world where that's often assumed to mean supernaturally assisted hypercompetence, I think it's reasonable to assume that the threshold for what constitutes genuine danger is higher than one might expect.

[up]Why is that weird? Do your teachers typically comment on every mistake you make, while you're writing the test?

[down]And then I changed mine. tongue

Edited by Gilphon on Aug 18th 2018 at 1:45:29 PM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#3216: Aug 18th 2018 at 10:44:14 PM

[up]I changed my comment there.

Edit: I just meant that if in this set up they're supposed to telling them when they lose points, it also follows that they'll tell them on what.

I gather the complaint being made is that they shouldn't be talking at all. That is fair. But it's a bit strange to talk as if the HUC are being unprofessional if they've apparently been instructed to tell them these things.

I get why they do have them talking to them though. They've already cut the acceptance rate by so much, and it's not like anyone is going to expect real people in need to do this. It's basically a way of trying to refine them even more during the exam.

Edited by LSBK on Aug 18th 2018 at 12:55:56 PM

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#3217: Aug 18th 2018 at 11:11:48 PM

I think dat's bullpawnlky, tho- the middle of a high stakes exam is not a good context for surprise training, and breaking character to lecture them means both wasting their valuable and limited time and sabotaging the ever-loving hell out of their concentration and immersion.

Like, judging by the presentation, yeah, they probably were instructed to give real-time feedback, but that's completely insane decision on the organizers part; one the undermines the validity of the test on a number of levels.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#3218: Aug 18th 2018 at 11:15:49 PM

Well, you could say that how they adapt afterwards is part of the exam. See who can handle it and who can't.

But I'm not really gonna fight anymore on this. What you've said makes sense.

Edited by LSBK on Aug 18th 2018 at 1:16:12 PM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#3219: Aug 19th 2018 at 12:50:15 AM

I feel like you guys are being very nitpicky about something that is primarily meant to be exposition and/or comic relief.

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KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#3220: Aug 19th 2018 at 1:11:24 AM

…Still, I wonder what the fake victims are paid for when there's no exam going on. >.>

Those tests are held twice a year at multiple locations. And these are just the provisional license exams. There are, presumably, further, more involved examinations for a full pro-licence. Plus there's also the possibility of being hired by the schools themselves for further training (maybe not UA, but they are noted for being stupid rich, others may not be so lucky), possibly ongoing training and certification for Pro Heroes.

And that's just the Hero industry. They may also do simulation work with other emergency services as well.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#3221: Aug 19th 2018 at 5:50:16 AM

Wasn't there some conversation earlier about how they can't really afford to lose too many heroes since All Might retired? Maybe the comments are more of a safety net for that reason?

Kotomikun Since: May, 2014
#3222: Aug 19th 2018 at 12:47:01 PM

[up][up][up] Well... yes. It's distracting because it's this weird combination of serious exposition that shouldn't logically be happening, and comical Miniature Senior Citizens screaming random criticisms at the heroes. So it didn't end up being all that funny, and I can't even remember exactly what the exposition part said.

If they had kept the detailed explanations in the heads of the HUC people (as they did with some but not others for whatever reason), or continued using Aizawa and "Ms. Joke" for that purpose, it would have worked better.

Edited by Kotomikun on Aug 19th 2018 at 12:49:44 PM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#3223: Aug 19th 2018 at 1:14:46 PM

I mean, personal tastes. I understand why it bothered the people it did, but I doubt most people will even think of those things.

They didn't devote enough of the episode to it for it to really get annoying for most people.

Edited by LSBK on Aug 19th 2018 at 3:18:06 AM

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#3224: Aug 19th 2018 at 1:32:33 PM

I mean, ultimately the reasons why it bothers me are mostly personal. I'm not saying everyone has to care about it, I'm just kind of pointing at something that bothers me and going 'you see that there? That shouldn't be there, and this is why.'

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#3225: Aug 19th 2018 at 1:34:20 PM

On the plus side, I like seeing Momo take charge again. And unlike with that filler episode, this actually shown in the manga.

Edited by LSBK on Aug 19th 2018 at 3:35:04 AM


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