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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#3526: Feb 2nd 2021 at 7:36:53 PM

Yep, once you can get away with one thing, the men suddenly start slipping into all sort of nasty stuff, like a freelfall on evil morality.

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KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#3527: Feb 2nd 2021 at 8:10:13 PM

What I am really interested lately is the fate of the men, who seem to be basically be victims of constant beatdowns and generally desexualized at maximum.

Like, they're basically moved constantly as a source of forced labour.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Feb 2nd 2021 at 11:10:46 AM

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eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
In the name of being honest
#3528: Feb 10th 2021 at 5:36:54 AM

Chinese microlending is getting weird and dangerous.

    Article 
Xu Hai got the promotional ad in a text message just when he was desperate for cash. It was summer 2020, and the 37-year-old Foxconn worker from the inland Chinese province of Hunan had been unemployed for months. Xu was no stranger to microloans: he had been taking them out since 2018, first from a few national banks and then from fintech platforms like Alipay and WeChat. The pandemic had made his financial situation even worse. He needed to borrow more.

The text urged Xu to borrow directly from Meituan, a tech company that has developed from a Yelp-like app to a mammoth corporation offering food delivery, bike-sharing, ride-hauling and more.

Xu accepted the offer because he needed to pay back the other loans he'd taken on. And Meituan was not the only place he turned. Now, Xu owes money to eight microlenders, five of which are household names in Chinese tech: Alipay, WeChat, Meituan, 360 and Xiaomi. These days, seemingly every Chinese app, whatever its original purpose, also pushes to lend users money. "Weibo tells me it can lend me money; the delivery app tells me it can lend me money; and now even the photo editing app tells me it can lend me money," wrote one Weibo user last month. "I have 32 apps on my phone. Probably 30 of them have turned into microlending apps."

Xu is now unable to climb out of debt and is battling depression.

Over the past year, non-fintech-turned-fintech apps have come under intense scrutiny by the Chinese public and the state. There's a growing concern they have tricked young people into overspending and pushed the overall amount of consumer debt to a dangerous level. The Chinese government proposed new rules in November to ramp up regulation over online microloans. Even though the rules are not official yet, their forecasted effects have already caused the suspension of Ant Group's blockbuster IPO. When they become official, they're almost certain to put a brake on tech companies' lending binge.

"China is the first large country where technology companies have turned into large financial intermediaries," Sampath Sharma Nariyanuri, a fintech analyst at S&P Global Market Intelligence, told Protocol.

A brief history of microlending

China's major tech players have been operating microlending services for years; it's one direct way to monetize a massive user base. For payment apps like Alipay and WeChat, it's a natural fit. In late 2014, Alibaba affiliate Alipay released Huabei, an online credit card-like service that allowed users to buy items on Alibaba's ecommerce platforms using credit. Ten months later, the company released another service, Jiebei, which offered unsecured microloans that could be used anywhere. The two products became popular almost instantly.

PROTOCOL | CHINA Chinese microlending is getting weird and dangerous Every app now wants to lend you money. It's driving some users into debt and foreshadows a broader crackdown. Chinese microlending is getting weird and dangerous Close-up of Mao Zedong's portrait on 5 Yuan RMB,10 Yuan RMB,100 Yuan RMB (China Currency). | Image: hudiemm/Getty Images Zeyi Yang February 9, 2021 Xu Hai got the promotional ad in a text message just when he was desperate for cash. It was summer 2020, and the 37-year-old Foxconn worker from the inland Chinese province of Hunan had been unemployed for months. Xu was no stranger to microloans: he had been taking them out since 2018, first from a few national banks and then from fintech platforms like Alipay and WeChat. The pandemic had made his financial situation even worse. He needed to borrow more.

The text urged Xu to borrow directly from Meituan, a tech company that has developed from a Yelp-like app to a mammoth corporation offering food delivery, bike-sharing, ride-hauling and more.

Xu accepted the offer because he needed to pay back the other loans he'd taken on. And Meituan was not the only place he turned. Now, Xu owes money to eight microlenders, five of which are household names in Chinese tech: Alipay, WeChat, Meituan, 360 and Xiaomi. These days, seemingly every Chinese app, whatever its original purpose, also pushes to lend users money. "Weibo tells me it can lend me money; the delivery app tells me it can lend me money; and now even the photo editing app tells me it can lend me money," wrote one Weibo user last month. "I have 32 apps on my phone. Probably 30 of them have turned into microlending apps."

Xu is now unable to climb out of debt and is battling depression.

Over the past year, non-fintech-turned-fintech apps have come under intense scrutiny by the Chinese public and the state. There's a growing concern they have tricked young people into overspending and pushed the overall amount of consumer debt to a dangerous level. The Chinese government proposed new rules in November to ramp up regulation over online microloans. Even though the rules are not official yet, their forecasted effects have already caused the suspension of Ant Group's blockbuster IPO. When they become official, they're almost certain to put a brake on tech companies' lending binge.

"China is the first large country where technology companies have turned into large financial intermediaries," Sampath Sharma Nariyanuri, a fintech analyst at S&P Global Market Intelligence, told Protocol.

A brief history of microlending China's major tech players have been operating microlending services for years; it's one direct way to monetize a massive user base. For payment apps like Alipay and WeChat, it's a natural fit. In late 2014, Alibaba affiliate Alipay released Huabei, an online credit card-like service that allowed users to buy items on Alibaba's ecommerce platforms using credit. Ten months later, the company released another service, Jiebei, which offered unsecured microloans that could be used anywhere. The two products became popular almost instantly.

But it's gotten bewildering as other apps, many totally unrelated to fintech, have joined the game. Of the 20 most commonly used apps in China — ranging from photo editing to file sharing, from maps to streaming platforms — all have some kind of in-app loan services, according to Chinese tech site iFanr.

The growth of Chinese fintech platforms really turbocharged around 2015, said David Yin, vice president and senior analyst at Moody's financial institutions group. "Financial innovation was encouraged at that time, with very loose regulatory requirements," he told Protocol.

Things quickly got weird as a jumble of tech companies that didn't work in finance joined the party. Tencent and Baidu launched their microlending service in 2015; JD, the ecommerce platform, in 2016. In the years since, hardware manufacturers like Xiaomi and (non-fintech) software companies like Weibo, Meituan and ByteDance all rolled out their own microlending products. They had good commercial reasons for doing so: Offering microloans can attract new users, create a new stream of revenue and reduce fees to credit card issuers for transactions on the platform.

But it was the lack of traditional banking services that made it possible in the first place.

"The low penetration of traditional banking services provided an opportunity for the tech companies to step up and meet customers' credit needs," Sharma Nariyanuri said. For the generation that grew up with smartphones, going to an online credit service like Jiebei is more natural than applying for a credit card.

Caveat emptor

It's now easier to count the major tech players that don't offer microloans than to count those that do.

With so many options on the market, they have to compete for attention, with predictably annoying and dangerous effects.

Weibo users complain the app is constantly promoting its microlending service through mobile ads with only a tiny tag signifying they're advertisements. "Even if you are in urgent need of money, you shouldn't go to illegal lenders! Come to Sina's official lending services," reads one of the posts. That ad also boasts that the maximum loan is about $30,000, with daily interest rates as low as 0.03% — that sounds low, but isn't when compounded over the course of months or years. Many lenders, including Weibo and Meituan, have been accused of false advertising: Users complain they were tricked into starting a service with no knowledge of processing fees. After all fees, the real annual interest rate is often around or even higher than 36%, the maximum rate allowed by Chinese law. There are countless complaints on social media about debtors being bombarded with calls, texts and WeChat messages, some even sent to their colleagues and friends, pressing them to pay loans back.

Financial regulators have been slow to address these issues, partly because the Chinese state was previously preoccupied with systemic risk from (unregulated) peer-to-peer lending services.

But now microlending from big tech has their full attention. During a December press conference, the China Banking and Insurance Regulatory Commission laid out the risks posed by fintech platforms. "There exist problems like unsound corporate management, profiteering off data monopoly, encouraging over-borrowing and overleveraging," a spokesperson said. The regulator also said it would conduct more inspections of individual platforms.

It is not clear when new rules aimed at cutting microlending down to size will take effect, or how tech companies will respond. There could be workarounds, particularly for companies that can obtain licenses to operate "consumer finance" businesses, an area the new rules don't touch.

But it's clear the era of loose fintech regulations is over. Online lending "will be subject to a similar regulatory framework as that for traditional financial institutions," Yin said. When that day comes, some beloved Chinese apps may have to turn their attention away from pushing loans, and go back to whatever they do best.

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eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#3529: Feb 10th 2021 at 5:41:37 PM

*external screaming*

Almost a quarter of Bitcoin is produced in China’s Xinjiang.

    Article 
There’s a pretty good chance that any new Bitcoin generated after the cryptocurrency’s Elon Musk-aided surge toward $50,000 will be sourced using cheap coal power in China’s Xinjiang.

The region that’s become notorious in recent years for complaints about abuse of Uyghur Muslim minorities is also a hub for the production of Bitcoin. Nearly two-thirds of global output took place in China as of April 2020, according to University of Cambridge researchers, and about one-third of that occurred in Xinjiang.

The main draw is the cheap power needed to run the computers that perform the complicated equations for so-called “Proof of Work” that confirm transactions without a third party, which forms the biggest part of a miner’s outlay. However, unlike the almost carbon-free mining in places like the Nordic region, most of the electricity in Xinjiang is still produced using polluting coal plants.

“Cheap and reliable electricity is really essential,” said Amanda Ahl, a BloombergNEF analyst. “It affects how much profit miners can make.”

Electricity-intensive industries like aluminum smelting and polysilicon production have long been drawn to Xinjiang because power rates there are extremely low — as little as 0.22 yuan ($0.03) per kilowatt-hour, compared with 0.6 to 0.7 yuan in central China, according to BloombergNEF.

The main reason for that is coal. While Xinjiang has a fast-developing renewable sector, with wind turbines dotting the hills around Urumqi, it still accounted for less than a quarter of electricity generated last year.

Coal makes up the bulk of the remainder. The province is blessed with vast reserves of the fuel, but no economical ways of moving most of it to population centers in central and eastern parts of the country.

On a grand scale Bitcoin mining consumes relatively little power. It probably represented about 0.2% of China’s total electricity demand in 2017, according to a 2018 BloombergNEF study.

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#3530: Feb 11th 2021 at 2:53:31 AM

I once thought of using Bitcoin but because of the stories, I'm not so sure...

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#3531: Feb 11th 2021 at 4:15:29 AM

[up] Use it for what, though?

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eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#3532: Feb 11th 2021 at 4:48:11 AM

It's a pyramid scheme that's also killing the planet with its carbon footprint. And the proof that the whole fintech field is evil

Anyhow, CCTV's annual Spring Festival gala is streaming live, so feel free to tune in if you don't mind the customary, ahem, blackface:


And meanwhile: China’s Tianwen-1 Mars probe goes into red planet orbit.

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China’s unmanned spacecraft Tianwen-1 went into orbit around Mars on Wednesday night, state media reported, as international efforts to explore the red planet heat up.

After a 15-minute deceleration, the unmanned spacecraft was captured by the Martian gravity and began to circle the red planet in a large elliptical orbit, according to state news agency Xinhua.

It comes just hours after the Hope satellite launched by the United Arab Emirates did so. Nasa’s Perseverance rover will join them next week.

China is a latecomer to Mars.

Five other countries have already been there, including India. In 2011, China made its first attempt with a small orbiter Yinghuo, or Firefly, hitching a ride on Russia’s Fobos-Grunt mission. But a launch failure meant it never left the Earth’s orbit.

Over the next couple of months, Tianwen will circle Mars and collect information about the environment below.

A lander is expected to separate from the orbiter around May to make a soft landing on Utopia Planitia, a large, rock-littered plain.

The lander has a robotic rover that will roam the landscape, investigating a wide range of features from soil properties to material composition, water, ice, air quality and magnetic fields, according to the Chinese space authorities.

For a first-timer, this is a complex mission.

Only the United States and the former Soviet Union have managed to land spacecraft on Mars, and these manoeuvres were preceded by many fly-by or orbiting missions.

Since the former Soviet Union’s Mars 1M No 1 mission on October 10, 1960, nearly 50 attempts have been made to visit the planet and about half have failed.

Ken MacTaggart, Britain-based space historian and author of the Haynes Astronaut Manual, said the Tianwen’s orbit insertion might seem simple but was no easy task.

With a time delay of 10 minutes between Earth and Mars, the Tianwen would need to fire up its engines while out of radio contact with the controllers in Beijing.

“All commands and control sequences need to be thoroughly checked to eliminate any errors, and then sent to the spacecraft well in advance,” said MacTaggart, who is co-editor of the Apollo 11 Flight Journal for Nasa’s history division.

He said that to “brake” the Tianwen would need to turn so its rocket engine faced the direction of travel, then pressurise the fuel tanks and start the engine.

“All of these complicated events need to happen in the correct time sequence. If the engine firing happens late, or the burn time is short, Tianwen 1 will sail past Mars into a wide orbit around the sun,” MacTaggart said.

“Entering orbit around Mars, with no possibility of help from Earth if anything goes wrong, is an extremely challenging task. Mars probes from other nations have often failed at this step, and a very expensive American Mars probe exploded when pressurising its fuel system before ignition.”

The US remains the lead player on Mars.

It has launched more than 20 missions to the planet, two involving rovers. The projects greatly expanded knowledge of Mars, including the Spirit rover mission’s 2004 discovery of evidence of water.

China’s space technology has been catching up rapidly in recent years. China made the world’s first landing at the far side of the moon and brought back lunar samples at the end of last year. The success of these missions suggested that China had acquired the critical technology for deep space missions, which depend heavily on autonomous software and hardware, according to some space experts.

A Beijing-based space scientist said China had also learned a lesson from the Soviet Union and would not engage in a costly space race with the US for political reasons.

“Chinese are pragmatic. There may be an allure to race to the moon or Mars. But we stick to our own pace,” said the government researcher who requested not to be named due to media policy.

The Tianwen-1 is the first of a series of spacecraft that China plans to launch to explore the other planets in the solar system. While the US is looking at manned space missions to the moon and Mars, China is opting for robot missions because of concerns about costs and risks, according to the researcher.

But Chinese astronauts will be working on the country’s first space station, with construction expected to start this year in lower-Earth orbit. “It will be an extremely busy year for Chinese space programme,” the researcher said.

Edited by eagleoftheninth on Feb 11th 2021 at 6:08:42 AM

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Alycus Since: Apr, 2018
#3533: Feb 11th 2021 at 5:00:37 AM

My family has the annual Spring Festival gala on now as well. Very splendid acrobatic performances (and thankfully no blackface so far) though I never quite get the xiangsheng skits. Maybe it's too culturally distant for me.

eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#3534: Feb 11th 2021 at 6:09:28 AM

2:05:20, for those curious: Edited:

Edited by eagleoftheninth on Feb 11th 2021 at 4:41:32 AM

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#3535: Feb 11th 2021 at 6:42:43 AM

Says it's blocked on copyright grounds.

FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#3536: Feb 11th 2021 at 11:05:36 AM

So much for being a communist media outlet.

China is now so capitalist, the CCP's own news channel claims copyright.

SteamKnight Since: Jun, 2018
#3537: Feb 11th 2021 at 4:25:07 PM

@Bitcoin and Xinjiang: It is grimly fascinating at how "creative" the CCP can be when it comes to exploiting Xinjiang and its people... I did not see that coming. I was actually expecting something akin to the organ harvesting of Falun Gong members or political dissidents. Bitcoin is kinda coming out of nowhere to me.

[up] I would argue CCP is combining the worst of capitalism and communism, especially its authoritarian part.

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Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#3538: Feb 11th 2021 at 5:03:50 PM

BBC is not allowed to air anymore in China after CGTN was taken off the air in the UK.

This is likely related to an old case where a British man’s supposed confession was made public by CGTN.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#3539: Feb 11th 2021 at 6:05:45 PM

[up][up]I remenber a book, "the travel of wang" I think were someone said that China have at times fused the worst part of capitalist like the rampant explotation and thinking of profit with the worst of comunism like the endless burocratization and separation of political movers to the rest of population.

it seen it was right.

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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#3540: Feb 11th 2021 at 6:24:32 PM

That video reminded me of nothing so much as a Busby Berkeley extravaganza.

Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#3541: Feb 12th 2021 at 6:04:25 PM

RTHK has dropped some BBC programs.

Now it’s official that this thing is due to a BBC investigation into what happened to those incarcerated at Xinjiang.

SteamKnight Since: Jun, 2018
#3542: Feb 12th 2021 at 9:51:58 PM

[up] Yeah, I have read that investigation article, and I think eagle had also posted a link about that here. It is... heavy stuff. And while reading it, I have a thought: "When will this atrocity end?" The CCP claimed that it will lasts until the Uighurs "integrate completely" into China and become a "productive" citizen.

But is that even true? Or what is their definition of completely integrated in the first place? I feel like those "vocation" camps are here to stay at least as long as the CCP is in charge because I don't think it'll ever stop when they are in charge and if somehow a new government replaces CCP, I have doubt it'll end it, considering how the Chinese people in general view Uighur people...

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#3543: Feb 13th 2021 at 3:55:58 AM

It's until they can be considered, more or less, like the Han. Or what the CCP defines the Han identity.

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fruitpork Since: Oct, 2010
#3544: Feb 13th 2021 at 5:47:41 AM

So when they’re completely exterminated, in other words.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#3545: Feb 13th 2021 at 5:51:51 AM

They won't stop until they've got literally every single member of the Uighur people under their bootheel.

They're not even willing to spare the Uighur people who aren't even in mainland China anymore. The CCP has gone to scary lengths to track down Uighur expatriates living in other countries.

Disgusted, but not surprised
SteamKnight Since: Jun, 2018
#3546: Feb 13th 2021 at 6:17:54 AM

[up][up][up] Yeah, but I don't think it will ever happen. Not just because I believe the CCP ever expect their camps to be successful the same way that colonialists in the past really believe that they can "civilize" and make the "savages" into their country's proper citizens, but because it is no longer just about culture or Islamic terrorism. It has become about economy as well. The mass incarceration of the Uighurs have provided CCP and Chinese industries with extremely cheap and easily exploitable labor. It has become some sort of modern chattel slavery with CCP as these Uighurs' owner, and then the CCP exploits their labor or rents them out to Chinese industries. I don't think both the CCP and Chinese industries are going to easily let these new sources of cheap labor go.

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eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#3547: Feb 13th 2021 at 8:25:27 AM

That's part of it. The world needs cheap renewables right now: semiconductor substrates for solar cells, permanent magnets for wind turbines. Polysilicon from Xinjiang is cheap because labour and coal power cost next to nothing there, and the Chinese government is quite generous at bailing out unprofitable solar companies besides. Rare earth metals from Inner Mongolia are cheap(-ish) because refinery complexes in places like Baotou can get away with workplace health-and-safety and environmental standards that no other major industrial power on Earth would put up with. The supply chains for the world's electronics (and cotton, and tomatoes...) are probably going to remain entangled with China's "domestic security" interests for the foreseeable future.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#3548: Feb 13th 2021 at 10:38:20 AM

So china want resource and cheap labor and is also using a race identity to exploid a minority......

this.....this feel a little bit like slavery in US back them.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#3549: Feb 13th 2021 at 6:17:09 PM

How should Chinese names be spelled? For example, I'm still seeing Peking instead of Beijing sometimes. Is there a preferred spelling?

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#3550: Feb 13th 2021 at 6:56:39 PM

Peking is based off of Cantonese, while Beijing is based off Mandarin. There's a lot of both political and pedantic arguments over whether they constitute separate entire languages or just very diverse dialects, but at the least they represent different "lects". Generally the Beijing version is understood to take precedent. You might also want to read through Why Mao Changed His Name.

Edited by AlleyOop on Feb 13th 2021 at 9:58:10 AM


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