New DuckTales Animated Series

We know Donald takes anger management, but how likely do you all think other characters go to therapy? Especially with the likes of Della and Lena?

None of them. Neighbour Jones invented psychology just to treat Donald, and the entire profession revolves around studying Donald Duck.

Say, has there ever been an instance of one of the Beagle Boys reforming before in any media?

I don't think so. Their whole schtick with Barks was that they were consummate, professional criminals who passed their lifestyle down the generations, like a crooked family business, and I think pretty much all writers stick with that, though they may water down how terrible they actually are to various degrees.

I mean, I do routinely call them the Boring Boys for a reason when they show up in run of the mill slice of life stories...

Maybe there is a story about a black sheep Beagle Boy out there, though.

I wonder if, should Darkwing ever get any future projects off the ground vs perpetual "in development" territory, they'll ever bring back the Jim Starling concept for Negaduck.

I really like the Dark Reflection version of Negaduck (I can take or leave the Negaverse itself, admittedly), but Jim Starling was a really cool idea. I could think of one or two ways they could even do both at once. The original show had more than one Negaduck, after all.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 8th 2023 at 2:59:47 AM

Isn't that basically the same as the original Negaduck, though? Negaduck is an evil version of Darkwing himself from an alternate universe. This show just did the same but in a meta way rather than a multiversal way.

Jim Starling isn't an evil duplicate. He's a person with his own backstory and motivations, which would mean if a new show used him they would have to adapt some version of that backstory and motivations. So he's definitely more complicated than the original Negaduck, which could theoretically cause a new adaptation to not want to use him.

I'm not sure if a reboot would want to be saddled with the meta as darkwing duck and all its characters as a show that already existed.

Probably not, no. They could give him a cameo as a Negaverse version, I suppose.

They don't have to do that to use Starling, though.

The immediate thing I thought of for using him was to have someone want to make a Darkwing movie while Darkwing was already active, with Starling as the star of that who goes crazy.

You could also just retain the idea of Starling being an actor whose work inspired Drake in his youth, who then goes mad with jealousy for Drake later in life, without having that work literally be Darkwing Duck. And even if they did have that work be Darkwing Duck, they're still not obligated to have everything about our Darkwing actually come from that show.

That was a series of separate decisions Ducktales 2017 made that don't all require to be made for the idea to still work.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 8th 2023 at 9:13:53 AM

The storyline of Gandra Dee is disappointing. We were not shown how the heroes found out that she was a member of the FOWL. But it was possible to make a detective episode with Huey in the title role. He failed at Uncle Scrooge's birthday party, but here he could have succeeded. He could conduct the investigation together with Officer Cabrera. And then in "Beaks in the shell" they communicate as if they are well acquainted. But this is not the case.

By the way, about this episode. We were also not shown how Fenton found out which organization his girlfriend was in, and how he persuaded her to change sides. The remake is certainly good, but it often misses the most interesting in favor of secondary plots.

She was one of the FOWL agents that the main characters were racing against in DuckTales (2017) S3 E14 "The Split Sword of Swanstantine!"; the main characters see her working with FOWL in that episode.

Then why didn't it surprise them at all? Especially Huey. He's Fenton's friend and should have been a little more excited about the fact that his friend's girlfriend is a villain. It was clearly not the first time they had seen her in the role of Agent FOWL. So, the history of her disclosure is skipped.

PS. Sorry. I found the answer to the first question. In "Escape from Inpossibin", she appeared studying the state of the robot. However, this is a very lazy way of disclosure. FOWL could use Gandra as a spy, taking advantage of her closeness with Fenton. Instead, Bradford just revealed to the enemies the identity of one of his agents. It was stupid.

Edited by bn2000 on May 21st 2023 at 8:48:27 AM

Because the writers didn't write the story that way. Why the writers didn't write it that way is a question that only behind-the-scenes info can really answer. Webby does react to Gandra, calling her "Agent G" when Dewey points her out.

• Maybe they thought it would not really fit the flow of the episode.
• Maybe there was a scene where another one of the characters reacted to Gandra being part of FOWL in a stronger way, but it was cut for some reason or another.
• There probably wasn't a reaction from Huey because he was dealing with Steelbeak rather than Gandra. Huey does react to Gandra being FOWL in a later episode.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on May 21st 2023 at 8:43:45 AM

they don't need to show the viewers everything,having to explain every little thing that happens would slow the episode

It's a safe assumption that Webby filled in the others after the events of the episode, as Huey knows Gandra is a part of FOWL by Recap / DuckTales (2017) S3 E19 "Beaks in the Shell!".

Webby definately info dumped them

[вверх]I don't pick on the little things. I'm pointing out missed opportunities.

Edited by bn2000 on May 21st 2023 at 9:36:40 AM

Those aren't really "missed opportunities," they're more "this is how I'd write the story differently than the writers."

I mean, it's definitely valid to say the writers skipped over parts of Gandra's story to get straight to the point where she's an antagonist, leading to a jarring moment wherein she's visibly on the bad guys side and nobody in-universe cares, despite her keeping a secret having been an explicit plot point previously.

"The writers chose to do that" isn't really a defense for that. It's still missing information.

Edited by KnownUnknown on May 21st 2023 at 11:38:13 AM

And what's the big deal here? The creators reinterpreted the original, so why can't I rethink the rebut.

Edited by bn2000 on May 22nd 2023 at 1:50:36 AM

Heck, closer viewing actually makes it pretty clear why none of the other characters react too strongly to Gandra being with FOWL, considering most of the characters really aren't that close to Gandra at all. In fact, I'd say it's done quite well and doesn't come across as jarring.

Huey, Webby, and Fenton are the focus characters in the episode that introduces her, so they're the ones who are the most familiar with her. Considering that said debut episode made it clear to the three that Gandra is willing to do shady things, it's not too surprising that Webby doesn't react super strongly to "Agent G," considering she and Gandra aren't really close enough to be good friends at that point.

Huey doesn't react to Gandra because during the group split-up he has to contend with Steelbeak instead. He definitely did react strongly in the "Beaks in the Shell" episode, since Webby presumably filled him in on Gandra's association with FOWL.

With Fenton, Gandra ended up coming clean to him about her association with FOWL. Her admittance of this to him and his desire to help her so she can cut ties with FOWL goes quite a way to show how these two care about each other, as well as giving more insight into the sort of person Gandra is.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on May 21st 2023 at 1:59:33 AM

In "Last adventure", FOWL captured many minor characters. But I didn't notice Inspector Tezuki (Astro BOYD) among them. Do you think she was captured after all? Or Bradford decided not to touch her. After all, she, like him, struggled with chaos in her hometown. Just by other methods. Although this is unlikely. After all, Zan Owlson is also in captivity. Although she also tried to bring order to St Canar.

I think the creators just had a set of background characters they wanted to appear there, and Astro BOYD just didn't make the cut.

pretty much,there's only so many characters you can include in a background scene

assume he was captured off screen