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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#5601: Sep 8th 2018 at 4:23:11 PM

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I think the main issue is that Japanese uses tone to indicate meaning, which is pretty much impossible to do in Donald's voice. So I am guessing everything sounds like it could have two or three meanings.

yeah, Donald doesn’t really do Subtle anything really.

Relatively complex (for him) inflections or acting (aka anything beyond happy/sad/angry/ect) is notoriously tough. In a language where tone and inflection is everything, everything he says is likely managled beyond belief.

Edited by megaeliz on Sep 8th 2018 at 7:26:20 AM

TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#5602: Sep 9th 2018 at 11:21:12 AM

I actually watched it for myself now, and the main difference is it sounds like his speech has been peppered with glottal stops I didn't know Japanese had, which makes him sound even more strangled.

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#5603: Sep 9th 2018 at 2:53:31 PM

By the way, the Japanese title for Ducktales (or at least the original 1987 version) is Naughty Ducks Dream Adventure.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#5604: Sep 9th 2018 at 3:06:58 PM

... Naughty? Naughty how? What could they possibly be referring to with that?

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#5605: Sep 9th 2018 at 3:07:51 PM

> Naughty Ducks Dream Adventure.

x rated duck adventures!

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#5606: Sep 9th 2018 at 3:11:39 PM

Would that count as a Translation Train Wreck, you think?

And speaking of dubs, wasn’t there a point when Clarence Nash did most of the dubbing for Donald in like ten or something different languages?

Edited by megaeliz on Sep 9th 2018 at 6:27:12 AM

TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#5607: Sep 9th 2018 at 8:15:25 PM

Naughty just meant mischievous before it became all about sex.

[up] Probably back when you'd get like ten recorded lines in a whole game.

Though I understand that Vin Diesel dubbed every instance of "I am Groot" in every language Guardians was released in.

Edited by TParadox on Sep 9th 2018 at 10:16:51 AM

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#5608: Sep 9th 2018 at 9:17:59 PM

[up] But like in old Donald cartoons, I'm pretty sure in like quite a lot of languages it's Clarence Nash. I distinctly remember reading that he once quipped something like that they had him quack in English, German, French, Spanish, etc.

I do know that he definitely voiced Donald in the Latin American Dubs of The Three Caballeros.

Edited by megaeliz on Sep 9th 2018 at 12:23:27 PM

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#5609: Sep 10th 2018 at 4:42:16 PM

He did?? Then that's yet one more thing i admire about him! Just like Antonio Banderas, who knows multiple languages and dubbed Puss in Boots in the foreign releases of the Shrek movies!

TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#5610: Sep 10th 2018 at 6:16:31 PM

Huh, what languages did Banderas dub besides Spanish?

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#5611: Sep 10th 2018 at 6:27:13 PM

[up][up] For Comparison, (but not limited too)

English

French:

Portuguese:

Italian:

They made extensive use of the phonetic alphabet, if I remember correctly.

[down] probably, It probably came up when I looked up Pato Donald. fixed

Edited by megaeliz on Sep 10th 2018 at 11:35:58 AM

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#5612: Sep 10th 2018 at 7:51:29 PM

Did you just confuse Spanish with Portuguese?

Edited by AegisP on Sep 10th 2018 at 7:51:02 AM

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#5613: Sep 11th 2018 at 11:32:08 AM

I’ve been hearing rumors that we’re going to get a Christmas special next season, and based on the character models they teased at SDCC, I think I know what it is.

Plot Twist: Donald, not Scrooge is the one who hates Christmas

Edited by megaeliz on Sep 11th 2018 at 7:22:24 AM

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#5614: Sep 11th 2018 at 5:57:08 PM

I'm torn between wanting to get into Scrooge's feud with Santa Claus and leaving it as a one-off gag.

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#5615: Sep 11th 2018 at 6:08:16 PM

[up]"That man is not allowed in my home! He knows what he did."

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#5616: Sep 11th 2018 at 7:39:05 PM

Think Beakley had to fight him off during the Neverrest trip?

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#5617: Sep 11th 2018 at 9:30:36 PM

I think we might be getting another go at a Christmas carol, actually.

Since this story has been done so many times with these characters before, a fun plot twist might be to have it be centered around Donald.

And speaking of Christmas Specials, here’s my favorite Barks Christmas Story, by the way. It’s a lower key one one, but it’s very sweet with a nice ending. It’s also notable because, while not stated outright, I think it’s implied that Santa doesn’t exist in the Duck-verse. X

here’s a review of it.

Edited by megaeliz on Sep 12th 2018 at 9:24:15 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#5618: Sep 12th 2018 at 1:24:19 AM

It doesn't really work if the Scrooge isn't rich enough to be an actual scrooge, though. Donald fits Cratchitt far more than he fits Scrooge.

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#5619: Sep 12th 2018 at 1:36:26 AM

Barks made quite a few Christmas stories in his time. My favourites are perhaps A Christmas for Shacktown and Letter to Santa, the former for its Christmas spirit and the latter for the absurdity it quickly escalates to.

Edited by Xeroop on Sep 12th 2018 at 11:38:46 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#5620: Sep 12th 2018 at 1:53:04 AM

Was that the one where the nephews wanted a toy digger, and Scrooge and Donald end up getting them a REAL digger? Each?

Man, that was a fantastic story.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#5621: Sep 12th 2018 at 6:00:37 AM

[up]Yeah it’s W CP 1-01, one of Bark’s earlier Scrooge stories, think. Here’s a review of it.

Now that I think about it, I did read this one Faraci/Cavazzano Story From 2007, where Scrooge shoves his cannon in Santa’s face, for walking into his money bin unannounced.

Honestly, the comic is just kind of weird. It’s a goofy Christmas on Bear Mountain tribute/rewrite, involving Santa’s grandfather, and magical time travel, with Cavazzano, of all people doing the art.

Edited by megaeliz on Sep 12th 2018 at 3:46:56 PM

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#5622: Sep 13th 2018 at 5:51:45 AM

For the Ghosts,I know they are placed next to Scrooge, but I associate a bee more with Donald, honestly.

I know how easy it would be, but I really hope they don’t do the obvious thing, and have another Christmas Carol Type plot centered around Scrooge. Even without the Mickey’s Christmas Carol movie, that story has been, used, subverted, referenced parodied, etc, in a ridiculous number for Uncle Scrooge Christmas specials, and it would be good to see a bit of a change in the formula.

Edited by megaeliz on Sep 13th 2018 at 11:06:43 AM

Etheru Since: Jul, 2009
#5623: Sep 13th 2018 at 6:38:25 AM

I thought the Christmas Special around the 80s (which was Alan Young's very first time playing Scrooge McDuck, but technically reprising his role as Ebeneezer Scrooge) was one of the best adaptations of A Christmas Carol.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#5624: Sep 13th 2018 at 7:24:57 AM

If you mean the one with Mickey, then yes, absolutely.

I mean, it has Pete shoving Scrooge in his own coffin, which has hell fire coming out. I think it's actually one of the darker adaptations around.

Edited by Redmess on Sep 13th 2018 at 4:25:31 PM

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#5625: Sep 13th 2018 at 8:35:21 AM

[up] That’s a great adaptation of a Christmas Carol, but my personal favorite is still the muppet one. (And IMO one of the few adaptations to actually get that final scene right, by trusting Micheal Caine’s performance to carry the scene, instead of manufactured drama or cheap scare, but that’s neither here nor there.)

So anyway, what would you guys like to see in a Duck Tales Christmas Special?

Scrooge isn’t quite as greedy as usual this time around, so a lot of the stock plots where he learns to be less horrible for a issue are out. If it is going to be Donald-centric, a story premise where he’s depressed or unhappy around the holidays, like this story, might work.

Edited by megaeliz on Sep 13th 2018 at 11:45:18 AM


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