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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#4801: Feb 20th 2019 at 2:06:49 AM

Then again, the US pulled a similar trick on the Japanese with the Doolittle Raid. The Japanese ended up putting a lot of effort into securing airfields in China because they thought the attack might have been launched from there rather than something really stupid like launching the twin-engined bombers from carriers. FDR did nothing to minimize this confusion even as the US proceeded to never use the tactic again for the duration of the war.

Sometimes it's as much about not telling the enemy something as it is about telling them something false.

Imca (Veteran)
#4802: Mar 1st 2019 at 12:26:58 AM

Dumb question, but I have learned that the DDH-184 Kaga, is actually.... larger in dimensions then the original Kaga.... Longer and Wider.

If you were to say, try and load the same aircraft as the WWII Kaga onto her, would she be able to launch them? Or was there another factor to launching the aircraft of the era that I am missing.

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#4803: Mar 1st 2019 at 4:39:58 AM

I don’t see any reason why not.

Recovering them might be an issue but launching should be easy.

Edited by archonspeaks on Mar 1st 2019 at 5:59:38 AM

They should have sent a poet.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#4804: Mar 1st 2019 at 4:51:03 AM

Immy whatever it is you're planning, don't do it.

Oh really when?
AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#4805: Mar 1st 2019 at 7:31:23 AM

Besides the possible issues with catapults or such not being compatible (I'm not an expert on that, unfortunately), the main issue to launch was to be steaming with the wind at a certain speed.

If its faster and bigger, which it probably is, there is no reason you couldn't launch Zero and Kate aircraft off of it. The real question will be, forever, why would you do that!? [lol]

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#4806: Mar 1st 2019 at 9:11:21 AM

[up] IJN carriers didn’t really use catapults, and modern Japanese carriers don’t use them either.

Compatible arresting gear would be the issue.

Edited by archonspeaks on Mar 1st 2019 at 9:11:42 AM

They should have sent a poet.
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#4807: Mar 1st 2019 at 7:51:24 PM

Immy if you're planning on attacking Pearl Harbor or Midway...don't. The Marines at Kane'ohe will be mighty cheesed off at the thought of having to drive over the mountains to rescue a bunch of squids in Honolulu.

Also NAS Midway hasn't been regularly used in decades. It's basically an emergency landing strip now.

Also a bunch of Zeroes and Kates wouldn't stand a chance against an Army/Air Force C-RAM or Navy Phalanx set to manual, let alone Standard missiles, Stingers and CAP.

So spare us the irate Marines, the massacre of your pilots and idea that somehow you can re-enact 1942 only this time around it ends in Japanese favor.

Teemo SPACE Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Married to the job
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#4809: Mar 2nd 2019 at 7:06:27 AM

^ They do, just like how when you're flying suddenly there's a mountain right out of nowhere!

Teemo SPACE Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Married to the job
SPACE
#4810: Mar 2nd 2019 at 7:09:09 PM

You know, those motorists are lucky that the only part of the ship that came into contact with the bridge *broke off* on impact...

AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#4811: Mar 9th 2019 at 4:17:55 AM

Other considerations for a carrier design besides a big enough flight deck and fast enough engines is the below-decks space for hangars, fuel tanks, and magazines. I'm not sure if LH Ds have a lot of space to safely stow munitions.

In warships and in armored vehicles alike, poorly stowed shells can ruin your entire day if the other guy lands a shot in the wrong spot.

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#4812: Mar 9th 2019 at 6:59:29 AM

Or at least munitions beyond those carried by a typical rotary gunship.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#4814: Mar 21st 2019 at 1:42:17 AM

Past couple of years have been a renaissance of finding new WW 2 shipwrecks.

What did we find in like, the past 5 years alone?

-Musashi

-Ward

-Lexington

-Hornet

-Wasp

-Yamashiro

-Fuso

-Hiei

-Indianapolis

And undoubtedly I've forgotten a bunch, there are just the ones I thought of atop my head.

Edited by AzurePaladin on Mar 21st 2019 at 4:42:36 AM

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Imca (Veteran)
#4815: Mar 21st 2019 at 2:38:23 AM

Most of them were found by Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen, who was using it as a kind of rich mans hobby.... I kind of worry about how things will go now that he is gone. :c

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#4816: Mar 26th 2019 at 9:57:43 AM

Had a moment of curiosity and I found something nifty.

Remember that Norwegian frigate that sank last November? They finally pulled it out of the water and back into a naval base.

Probably a complete loss after 4+ months of being in chilly seawater.

Teemo SPACE Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Married to the job
SPACE
#4817: Mar 26th 2019 at 8:28:44 PM

I wonder if that .50 cal can be salvaged.

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#4818: Mar 26th 2019 at 9:23:41 PM

Easily. The actual .50 cal machine gun anyways, don't know about the hydraulic powered mount.

Send it to the armorer (paging Tuffel), have it given a good solvent bath and scrub to get the corrosion off, replace a few parts if necessary, lube it up well and it's good to go again.

The mount might be right proper fucked.

Edited by MajorTom on Mar 26th 2019 at 9:24:19 AM

Imca (Veteran)
#4819: Mar 26th 2019 at 10:43:53 PM

I am pretty sure Tuffy would hate you for it though.

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#4820: Mar 27th 2019 at 3:44:30 PM

...Yeah, even the .50 would be fucked. Long term immersion in salt water even cold salt water fucks weapons inside and out. Even fresh water immersion would turn the guts into a corroded mess. The barrel is likely fucked three ways from Sunday and any part that scraped against another would corrode very very quickly.

Who watches the watchmen?
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#4822: Jun 24th 2019 at 4:39:22 PM

So here is something for you folks to pick over. Someone at work asked me if I knew what the Longest ship that is still commissioned in the US Navy was? Apparently, the answer is neither the USS Ford or the USS Constitution. The only thing we could come to was it was a technical classification and not a more traditional classification.

Who watches the watchmen?
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#4823: Jun 24th 2019 at 5:01:37 PM

Ask your coworker to elaborate more please. Define "longest". Longest serving? Longest length? Longest ranged weapons? Longest range of cruise?

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#4824: Jun 24th 2019 at 6:31:24 PM

Longest in terms of physical length.

Who watches the watchmen?
MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#4825: Jun 24th 2019 at 6:57:54 PM

Unless we count USS Desert Ship as a ship, I only think the Nimitz or Ford class carriers are candidates for that.


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