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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#34126: Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:17:54 PM

I mean its easy to believe his wife just took all the blame and that was the end if that, because if his family life was actually known there'd be a lot more people questioning him over being No.2 just by the way he treats his family.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#34127: Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:20:19 PM

Obviously his family life isn't well-known. I'm saying there's a distinction between "Endeavor isn't the type to talk about personal matters because he's a cranky dick" and "Endeavor systematically made sure none of this got out to the public because of fear of repercussion."

We've seen plenty to assume the former, not really anything to support the latter.

Edited by LSBK on Sep 23rd 2019 at 6:20:59 AM

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#34128: Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:26:29 PM

Japan is very hush hush about this to begin with so not investigating it and taking it at face value is deemed acceptable for Societal Harmony.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#34129: Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:28:20 PM

A lot of it is rooted in the series' home country.

In general, family matters are just that, family matters. Whatever personal issues you are having with your family, you are expected to keep them personal lest you cause problems for the public.

So it's less Endeavor is trying to cover things up, and more it's a matter that nobody outside the family should be dealing with. Even during their fight, Deku was kind if called out for butting in where he didn't belong.

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Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Sep 23rd 2019 at 7:28:36 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#34130: Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:30:48 PM

None of that actually goes against the point I was making.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#34131: Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:34:10 PM

Even assholes who don't care what others think do, in fsct, follow the rules about handling family life, simply because it's expected of them in Japan. Especially because it also drags the rest of the family into it if they're the parents.

Since he wanted to groom Todoroki, that would easily get in the way.

Just like it isn't known until Todoroki tells Deku and Bakugou overhears.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:35:50 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#34132: Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:42:03 PM

I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make now, to be honest.

That Japan has a culture of keeping uncomfortable personal matters buried? Okay then, that doesn't change the fact the situation has been framed less like Endeavor meticulously and actively suppressing information on the subject, and more just it not coming up for whatever reason.

Just look at how he talks to All Might and Izuku about Shoto during the sports festival. He doesn't go into all the details, obviously, but that is not someone who feels societal pressure to keep as many people as possible outside the loop.

Endeavor doesn't normally talk about these things because he's not the kind of person who would want to talk about his family anyway. If that fits with Japanese cultural norms, fine. But that's not the same thing as the story implying Rei is still institutionalized, because he pulled strings to keep her there. Which is how this conversation started.

Edited by LSBK on Sep 23rd 2019 at 6:45:13 AM

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#34133: Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:49:04 PM

Nothing In-Universe says anyone outside the family knows the truth either till Todoroki spills, which if anything says that he has kept it hush hush because it wouldn't impact him, but his family.

That he feels guilt for what he did to his wife would be the first sign that yeah, he ain't winning any husband of the year awards, he isn't callous enough to be open about something to the public that will hurt them even more than he already has. In fact the news would be bringing it up all the time to denounce him as being worthy of All Might's successor. Because that's how news works. Just as a bad tweet can impact someone over here, the same can happen over in Japan.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:50:33 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#34134: Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:50:16 PM

I mean, I'm sure he's ashamed of it now, but I imagine that's a recent feeling for him.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#34135: Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:51:37 PM

He'd been visiting her for awhile, longer than the rest know save for his wife.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:53:46 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#34137: Sep 24th 2019 at 7:05:35 PM

Since it seems like a safe bet that we're going to be getting more flashbacks eventually about previous users, I hope they actually do elaborate on how One For All was discovered in the first place.

Because the conditions of how it's transferred means it couldn't have been done accidentally; the First had to have known it was a thing he could do and chose to have done so. And I still can't think of a way of for that to work.

devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#34138: Sep 25th 2019 at 1:39:07 AM

There are really two ways about it. Either the merging was an event he noticed and he thus realized he had a quirk, or the transfer was an accident as he entrusted his quirk to someone else. (e.g. he strongly felt someone else deserved or needed power) Nowadays it requires ingesting DNA, but it could be that the original owner could transfer it by touch ALA AFO. Or they were bleeding and someone else ingested that blood, or whatever.

Edited by devak on Sep 25th 2019 at 10:39:46 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#34139: Sep 25th 2019 at 1:41:13 AM

It's clear that there's something fundamentally different about the brother Quirks All For One and One For All compared to most other Quirks. There's something spiritual and almost otherworldly about these two Quirks compared to others.

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Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#34140: Sep 25th 2019 at 4:27:23 AM

Or he hust had isntinctual knowledge of what to do. I feel like a lot of quirks could work that way.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#34141: Sep 25th 2019 at 4:29:40 AM

Heck, it's a mystery how exactly AFO figured out how his Quirk worked. It's possible that his Quirk comes with a bit of Quirk-related kleptomania meaning he has a compulsion to steal Quirks he fancies.

Edited by M84 on Sep 25th 2019 at 7:30:23 PM

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#34142: Sep 25th 2019 at 5:49:42 AM

That's always been my theory, that a person is instinctively compelled to use their quirk.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#34143: Sep 25th 2019 at 6:01:12 AM

If that's the case, then maybe the Transfer Quirk that became OFA somehow compels its bearer to pass it on to someone they think is worthy. Maybe the Quirk helps its bearer determine whether someone can be trusted with it.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#34144: Sep 25th 2019 at 9:52:35 AM

I mean, if it were an instinctual thing the whole "he didn't know he had a Quirk to begin with" thing stops making sense.

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#34145: Sep 25th 2019 at 10:07:09 AM

Maybe OFA realized he had a quirk when the Mind Hive (or whatever it can be called) started with feeling his brother's "presence" through whatever telepathic link that AFO hinted at back in Tatarus not so long ago...

Just a guess...

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#34146: Sep 25th 2019 at 10:09:43 AM

[up][up]My guess, assuming it was an instinct thing, is that the Quirk was dormant until another Quirk merged with it for the first time.

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devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#34147: Sep 25th 2019 at 11:31:05 AM

Some quirks have shown to activate on instinct. Kirishima's suddenly activated, for instance. But it doesn't seem like a guarantee.

Edited by devak on Sep 25th 2019 at 8:33:14 PM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#34148: Sep 25th 2019 at 11:32:05 AM

I mean, One For All can't activate on instinct. That's the entire point of this line of thinking, and instinctual awakening without him understanding what's going on does not make sense with how transferring the power works.

Even ignoring the user having to will it first, you still have the "get your DNA into the other person" part for extra security.

Edited by LSBK on Sep 25th 2019 at 1:33:50 PM

devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#34149: Sep 25th 2019 at 11:54:05 AM

Hence my belief that he probably sensed that the quirks merged and became one. I can see drama points in him passing it on by accident, but it would also feel contrived.

I wonder what the first user would experience with regards to the Vestiges. Would they just have weird, empty dreams?

Edited by devak on Sep 25th 2019 at 8:55:28 PM

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#34150: Sep 25th 2019 at 12:06:14 PM

Either that, or were just moments of introspection and just didn't think about it much.

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