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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#33076: Aug 22nd 2019 at 2:41:38 AM

Just be careful you don't end up leatherpantsing your own creation ala Creator's Pet.

For an example of this, just look at Jim Starlin and his creation Thanos. Or Greg Weisman and Xanatos.

Edited by M84 on Aug 22nd 2019 at 5:42:59 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#33077: Aug 22nd 2019 at 2:52:48 AM

[up] Indeed that is true. I must not fall in love with my own creation.

For fun how leather pantsable is this character concept? He's a demon, humanoid in the shape of a dragon. His body-type is slender but he's got four-arms but his scales are golden colored.

Personality-wise he's a sadist with a love of domination, but he's articulate so he's not a dumb brute though he likes to play it up the ham for shits & giggles. He's a bully to his younger brother, willing to make fun of him & taunt him but he loves working with his elder sister though as a marauder through razing lands & pillaging villages to help her take over.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 22nd 2019 at 2:55:35 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#33078: Aug 22nd 2019 at 2:58:22 AM

[up]Yeesh, I can already see the sunlight shining off his too-tight black leather pants.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#33079: Aug 22nd 2019 at 3:07:48 AM

He also loves killing dragons. For no reason cause he thought it was a good hobby. Waging a one-demon genocide & steal all their souls to prove he's the one-true dragon.

He's not even a real dragon, he's something completely different. His golden form is a look stolen from one of his first kills. He's appropriating the name & look of another sentient species just cause he wants too. He won't kill the babies though but only cause the babies provide no nourishment so he prefers waiting then killing them as grown ups or at least teens.

As well as finding humanity ugly. His younger brother having a fetish for them is one of the reasons why he bullies him.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 22nd 2019 at 3:10:15 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#33080: Aug 22nd 2019 at 3:56:50 AM

The irony is funny as much as it is scary. People treat the "heroes" like they're monsters who need to die. But the actual villain and serial killers are just "misunderstood".

These people aren't rational and sane people, so I'd take their opinion with a massive grain of salt.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#33081: Aug 22nd 2019 at 4:00:13 AM

Objectively speaking, Endeavor and Bakugou are morally much better people than the villains that these "fans" like to coddle. Sure, "not being a mass murderer or serial killer" is a very low bar to clear, but they do clear it. To say nothing of the fact that Endeavor is a pro Hero who saves lives and stops bad guys, and Bakugou wants to do the same (and has done it).

And I'm saying this as someone who has grown up with both bullying at school and emotional (and occasional physical abuse) from my parents.

Being swatted with a feather duster handle does count as physical abuse, right?

Edited by M84 on Aug 22nd 2019 at 7:01:32 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#33082: Aug 22nd 2019 at 4:03:47 AM

Well those things are wooden so I'm pretty sure it hurts.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#33083: Aug 22nd 2019 at 4:04:45 AM

The one my mom used when I was a kid was made of plastic. So it stung, but didn't leave any permanent marks or bruises.

Though I guess it's not a good sign that I can still remember what it felt like decades later. To this day I'm still a bit unnerved by feather dusters.

Edited by M84 on Aug 22nd 2019 at 7:06:24 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#33084: Aug 22nd 2019 at 4:09:02 AM

Okay you actually have some trauma there.

Its a similar feeling I get whenever I hear of Happy Tree Friends cause my cousin showed me an episode of it when I was way too young to watch that shit.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#33085: Aug 22nd 2019 at 4:10:12 AM

[up][up][up][up] Usually the good guys are held to a higher standard, while protagonists then to have no standard whatsoever. So good guys continuously have to prove they're good, bad guys have to do nothing of the sorts, and the protagonist can literally torture and murder innocents and still be considered a good guy.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#33086: Aug 22nd 2019 at 4:10:40 AM

It's mostly a result of the modern culture environment that has been outting a lot of abusers lately.

I remember this was said here, but Endeavor embodies every common trait people associate with abusers nowadays and would prefer Hori use him as a negative symbol about it. So it pisses people off that Hori would dare to try and portray anything positive about him.

It's just how culture is nowadays sadly. You do anything remotely bad, you need to be "cancelled" and any good you've done is effectively ignored.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#33087: Aug 22nd 2019 at 4:14:27 AM

[up][up] That perfectly describes the massive double standard Goku & Vegeta gets from the fandom.

[up] Ooof the bad timing and the anime won't even get to the major Endeavor stuff until 2020.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 22nd 2019 at 4:16:19 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#33088: Aug 22nd 2019 at 4:38:35 AM

I commend Hori for sticking to his guns at least, because he's going to get a lot of shit over this lol.

It might be a vocal minority, but with social media the vocalness becomes an echo chamber.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#33089: Aug 22nd 2019 at 4:39:06 AM

[up][up] I've never really followed the Dragonball fandom, but i did read the manga. It's kinda funny that Goku is a hugely irresponsible asshole at times (fate of the world is at stake? nah, i want a good fight, let's heal up the ultimate evil and give him a free punch). Goku even gives Frieza, an intergalactic genocidal maniac, a second chance.

But even in MHA, Bakugo and Endeavor get more hate than actual mass murderers, which is both funny and sad

[up]Social media is full of the "we shout harder therefore we're right" types. And with how stuff like twitter's algorithms work, you don't even need a big crowd to be loud.

Edited by devak on Aug 22nd 2019 at 1:41:53 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#33090: Aug 22nd 2019 at 4:43:48 AM

[up] It’s not really him being an asshole, he’s just a proud father assuming his son will turn out the same way as him and his giving Frieza a second chance is because he just doesn’t like killing people & wanted finally end things after being exhausted with it.

Vegeta is more irresponsible considering he outright lets Cell power-up to a form stronger than him cause the guy stroked his ego & has on record physically abused his son(s) onscreen.

As a father Goku is at his worst distant but he never demeans or assaults his kids unlike Vegeta did.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 22nd 2019 at 4:45:34 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#33091: Aug 22nd 2019 at 4:50:59 AM

Also people ignore that whioe Bakugou may not show signs of apologizing to Izuku anytime soon, he 'has consistently avoided trying to hurt Todoroki concerning his family after learning his past as much as he can.

Like his response was to grit his teeth and let Todoroki handle the kids his way because he remembered Todoroki childhood was different from his own.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Aug 22nd 2019 at 4:51:32 AM

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devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#33092: Aug 22nd 2019 at 5:06:07 AM

[up] Not just "different from his own". He brings up how his parents were rough and smacked him as an example of good parenting, only to quickly pipe down when he realizes he's talking to Shoto who had very, very different results from (arguably) the same treatment.

[up][up]"Vegeta is more irresponsible considering he outright lets Cell power-up to a form stronger than him cause the guy stroked his ego & has on record physically abused his son(s) onscreen."

Not sure how this is different from Goku giving Piccolo a free hit + a senzu bean just because he wanted a fair fight, even though Piccolo was taking over the world and willing to commit genocide over it.

[down] It doesn't really change that Bakugo recognizes that his situation isn't applicable to shoto, and that what he considers good may hurt others. Which kinda implies Bakugo's not that far gone that he cannot ever realize he wronged Izuku. It won't happen soon cause he's not there yet, but he's also not irredeemable in that aspect

Edited by devak on Aug 22nd 2019 at 2:12:51 PM

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#33093: Aug 22nd 2019 at 5:10:12 AM

His mom. It was just his mom. Who has been canonically confirmed to destroy stuff around the house when angry too.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#33094: Aug 22nd 2019 at 5:18:19 AM

[up][up] Cell's power-up involved the harming of another person through the absorbtion of Android 18.

Goku would never go that far that even for a good fight.

The situations are too different to be compared. A senzu bean doesn't make you stronger, it just re-energizes you but you still have the same strength as before.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 22nd 2019 at 5:20:51 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, Bitch!
#33095: Aug 22nd 2019 at 5:18:35 AM

[up][up]And Mitsuki's Poor husband gets equally shat on by both Mitsuki and Bakugou.

Edited by Demongodofchaos2 on Aug 22nd 2019 at 8:19:53 AM

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SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#33096: Aug 22nd 2019 at 5:34:46 AM

Mizuki is in a weird place because she's clearly meant to be a "Looney Tunes violence is funny" type character, but she (weirdly) doesn't go far enough that it's funny.

Like, Izumi Curtis slaps Ed and Al around all the time, but she has the context of having been their martial arts instructor, which psychologically speaking tends to blur the line as to what level of violence is casually acceptable. Ed and Al also used to fistfight all the time as kids, and continue to slap and punch each other around, both for serious and in play, and even Winry pulling out a Hyperspace Wrench and smacking the sould out of Ed is part of the "funny" violence.

But Mizuki slaps Kacchan upside the head in the presence of his schoolteachers and nothing happens. I get that the idea is he gives as good as he gets, but how long has that kind of thinf been going on? Especially when you consider "I was kidnapped because I was too weak" was something we heard from Mitsuki way before Bakugou said it.

Edited by SalFishFin on Aug 22nd 2019 at 8:35:14 AM

Aukefi Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#33097: Aug 22nd 2019 at 5:35:38 AM

From what I understood, Bakugou's parents were negligent until Bakugou graduated from "mean kid" to "full asshole", which was part of made that process possible in the first place, and their current behavior is both of them trying to teach their son to act better, but getting caught up in the assholeness.

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#33098: Aug 22nd 2019 at 5:38:10 AM

I'm pretty sure Mizuki always had a mouth on her, though, given how she can tell her husband into submission.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#33100: Aug 22nd 2019 at 6:29:57 AM

Mitsuki is like her son personality wise.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.

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