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gropcbf from France Since: Sep, 2017
#5126: Feb 29th 2024 at 9:53:36 AM

Good, we will no longer be hearing the lame objections of conservative politicians "this is not necessary, there are more serious concerns".

Lyendith I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane! from Bègles, France Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#5127: Feb 29th 2024 at 11:29:13 AM

I’m almost surprised it passed this overwhelmingly in the Senate, but I won’t complain. We don’t get many progressive victories these days.

Not sure how significant the change in the text from "right to abortion" to "freedom of abortion" is, though?

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gropcbf from France Since: Sep, 2017
#5128: Feb 29th 2024 at 1:03:03 PM

I understand the change is that abortion was only legal, and now that it's a right garanteed in the constitution, it would be quite difficult to make it illegal.

Lyendith I'm not insane, I'm not… not insane! from Bègles, France Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#5129: Feb 29th 2024 at 2:14:09 PM

Oh no, I meant the change in semantics from the first draft, that the BBC article mentions.

None of the country's main political parties question the right to abortion but the language used in the amendment was revised after the 2022 vote, when the National Assembly endorsed the "right" to abortion.

Last month it voted again to back the "freedom" to have an abortion after Mr Macron's government called for Article 34 of the constitution to be amended to cite "the freedom of women to have recourse to an abortion, which is guaranteed".

This new wording on "guaranteed freedom" was approved by the Senate on Wednesday.

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Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#5130: Feb 29th 2024 at 2:59:34 PM

I expect the change was to clarify it as meaning “the government cannot ban this” rather than “the government is obligated to make sure this is provided”.

Bexlerfu Khatun of the Azim Steppe from Mol Iloh Since: Nov, 2020
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#5131: Feb 29th 2024 at 8:43:16 PM

Bit late to the party, but...

To be clear, they’re not protesting against "environmental regulations" but the fact that free-trade treaties (like the ones the EU recently signed with New Zealand, Chile or Kenya) put them in competiton with countries where those regulations don’t exist or are far more lax, a competition they obviously can’t win − especially when those countries’ wages are also much lower.

That doesn’t make sense to me re: New Zealand, at least. They’ve got very strong environmental and agricultural regulation (a year or so back they made free-range farming mandatory for egg farmers), and at least as high as wages as France would have. Prior to the recent elections they were up there with the Scandanavian countries as one of the most progressive developed nations.

Few things there.

  • One of the issues is the carbon cost of importing your meat from literally the other side of the globe (and I mean literally, if you look where the exact opposite of Paris on Earth is, it's in the Pacific roughly 1000km East of Dunedin)
  • It's mostly lamb meat that comes from NZ as far as produces go
  • I think New Zealand has an extremely favorable trade agreement with France when it comes to lamb in particular since the Eighties. It may be related to the Rainbow Warrior case, where the French Secret Service blew a Greenpeace ship up in Auckland, killing one man, and got caught, causing a major international crisis - basically, that trade agreement may be one of the ways the French government tried to apologize and soothe things over with the Kiwis, because they knew they had royally screwed up.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#5132: Mar 7th 2024 at 3:46:01 PM

Cross-posting this from the Eastern European Politics Thread: Emmanuel Macron Announces Plans for Permanent Defense Mission in Moldova

Summary:

1. This defense mission follows a signing of a cooperation agreement between France and Moldova's respective defense ministers.

2. This defense mission is to strengthen Moldova's military capabilities with French assistance.

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