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#676: Dec 16th 2017 at 10:33:18 PM

Google already entered the ISP space, but they're in so few areas that no one really talks about it. That and I apparently heard Google ran into trouble with other IS Ps in the areas they tried to get into.

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#677: Dec 16th 2017 at 10:34:31 PM

That's how anti-competitive the ISP business is in the USA. Even Google can't make much headway.

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#678: Dec 16th 2017 at 11:28:13 PM

Shit, then it's like Japan's idol idustry. You'll die in there faster than a gladiator.

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#679: Dec 17th 2017 at 4:50:06 AM

I was going to say that it's probably not as exploitative but I dunno how true that is.

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#680: Dec 17th 2017 at 6:22:11 AM

Funny story: I went to the TV Tropes Pantheon forum and joked (in the worst way possible) that I'd make a profile for Pai in the meantime. Everyone thought I was serious and said "NO" and they had to retype their rules to emphasize no current politics allowed. They still treat me neutral but I didn't know I'd cause a shitstorm.

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#681: Dec 17th 2017 at 6:36:40 AM

Pai is the most hated man in the United States right now, followed by Trump that....trumps him in being a hated person. What happens in political threads stays there.

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#682: Dec 17th 2017 at 7:07:25 AM

I have Cox, not Comcast. If the US ISP market was more like the UK's, which has tons and tons of different IS Ps competing with each other, the Net Neutrality repeal wouldn't be as much of a problem...

That's because of EU regulations regarding competition. Once the UK leaves the EU, we'll see what happens then.

edited 17th Dec '17 7:07:51 AM by Wyldchyld

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#683: Dec 17th 2017 at 7:24:02 AM

[up] Then there'll... still be a lot of random ISPs going around. I don't see why that's likely to change when the government seems more interested in breaking things up even further.

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#684: Dec 17th 2017 at 7:28:27 AM

Apparently a cali state senator introduced a bill recently that world force isps to obey Net Neutrality if they wished to operate in the state.

That’s one way to do it... now to pass it and get the other 49 to do the same.

It certainly can be it, it would be great. Basically, this could lead to ironically, make Net Neutrality something permanent
There were incidents before that lead to Net Neutrality in the first place including secretly throttling customers and actually blocking websites, mailing lists and texts of an abortion rights group. The FCC came down hard on each of them and the Title 2 classifications were intended to be the final nail in the ‘stop that’ sign.

edited 17th Dec '17 7:43:43 AM by Memers

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#685: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:19:49 AM

Netflix rips net neutrality repeal: ‘This is the beginning of a longer legal battle’

Netflix is standing with the internet against the FCC's ruling, calling it "misguided". Netflix says it "stands with innovators, large & small" to fight the FCC on this one.

edited 17th Dec '17 10:59:35 AM by TroperOnAStickV2

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#686: Dec 17th 2017 at 10:40:07 AM

[up]Of course-Netflix and other streaming services are in the crosshairs of every ISP. Part of what got Obama to put up the net neutrality agreement was a couple of IS Ps getting into it with streaming services and threatening to throttle them.

edited 17th Dec '17 12:16:54 PM by ViperMagnum357

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#687: Dec 17th 2017 at 11:59:43 AM

The FCC also did a fake comment under Obama's name. They are already digging their graves with the lawsuits, but this is something else.

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#689: Dec 17th 2017 at 12:03:51 PM

Seriously, that's just incredible.

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#690: Dec 17th 2017 at 12:06:55 PM

... good god that's ridiculous.

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#691: Dec 17th 2017 at 12:07:25 PM

Name of Filer Barack Obama
The unprecedented regulatory power the Obama Administration imposed on the internet is smothering innovation, damaging the American economy and obstructing job creation.
The plan currently under consideration at the FCC to repeal Obama's Title II power grab is a positive step forward and will help to promote a truly free and open internet for everyone.

Wow. They didn't even try with that one. I'm embarrassed to see that, and its my enemies' shoddy work.

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#692: Dec 17th 2017 at 12:08:32 PM

[up]x5 Okay, I just have to post the whole thing here, because that is just too frigging hilarious not too.

Name of Filer: Barack Obama

[...]

Brief Comment: The unprecedented regulatory power the Obama Administration imposed on the internet is smothering innovation, damaging the American economy and obstructing job creation. I urge the Federal Communications Commission to end the bureaucratic regulatory overreach of the internet known as Title II and restore the bipartisan light-touch regulatory consensus that enabled the internet to flourish for more than 20 years. The plan currently under consideration at the FCC to repeal Obama's Title II power grab is a positive step forward and will help to promote a truly free and open internet for everyone.

That's just special. And provides even more fodder for the oncoming lawsuits.

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edited 17th Dec '17 12:09:05 PM by kkhohoho

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#693: Dec 17th 2017 at 12:08:52 PM

Date Received May 11, 2017

Date Posted May 13, 2017

Address 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW

The address is out of date, too. [lol]

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#694: Dec 17th 2017 at 12:12:42 PM

The FCC obviously did no screening at all. I wonder if they kept any metadata on the bogus filers. All we need to hear now would be if it turned out that Russian hackers were behind them.

edited 17th Dec '17 12:12:54 PM by DeMarquis

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#695: Dec 17th 2017 at 12:19:53 PM

Can't wait for idiots to spin this as "See? Even Obama thinks he'd gone too far with Net Neutrality!"tongue

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#696: Dec 17th 2017 at 12:24:10 PM

On the chance the real Obama notices that and says something to bring attention to that (most likely lawyers would crowd around it), would the FCC be automatically put to court for impersonating a past president without permission or something like that? It's even so shoddy too, you just can't not notice the blatant errors.

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#697: Dec 17th 2017 at 12:29:06 PM

Funny story: I went to the TV Tropes Pantheon forum and joked (in the worst way possible) that I'd make a profile for Pai in the meantime. Everyone thought I was serious and said "NO" and they had to retype their rules to emphasize no current politics allowed. They still treat me neutral but I didn't know I'd cause a shitstorm.

Hmmm maybe I'll try it jus for fun

Aijit Pai (Chairman of the FCC, Satan, The most Hated Man in America) god of internet throttling Alignment: Money Evil Leitmotif: Here comes the Money or the Harlem Shake Symbol: The FCC logo Domains: Internet, Money, Jerkassery, Corrupt Politicians Portfolio: Former lawyer, Current head of the FCC, Corrupt politician, Deferminators, Money, Jerkasses, Repealing popular laws, hated by very much everyone, uses stale memes Allies: The Donald all ISPS Enemies: pretty much everyone else

How's this for a start

On the chance the real Obama notices that and says something to bring attention to that (most likely lawyers would crowd around it), would the FCC be automatically put to court for impersonating a past president without permission or something like that? It's even so shoddy too, you just can't not notice the blatant errors.

Oh god I hope so.

edited 17th Dec '17 12:29:47 PM by GraymanofBelka

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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#698: Dec 17th 2017 at 12:35:09 PM

I think you guys are a little confused. The FCC itself didnt write that, someone posted that on the FCC's website (Pai then went on to claim that the nature of the public comments they recieved helped justify the repeal).

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#699: Dec 17th 2017 at 12:41:26 PM

[up]And the FCC happily benefits from it, I would not at-all be surprised if they knew and did nothing.

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#700: Dec 17th 2017 at 1:16:23 PM

At the very least, it's a great and extremely obvious excuse to start up a full-on investigation into the FCC and its systems to see why, apparently, no one noticed a ton of duplicate comments from people who either were dead, didn't live at the listed addresses, didn't want to comment, or are people who very, very obviously wouldn't have posted them.

And if Pai had done anything other than outright blocking the investigation, that excuse would be much weaker.

Not Three Laws compliant.

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