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One of the Triplicate Girls getting taken out also happened in the Legion cartoon.

In season 2 during a team disintegration thing one of them got wiped leaving the remaining 2 as Suo Damsel until the 3rd one came back in the series finale.

Well every arc of Bendis’ JL has ended in a drawn out anti-climax so whimper most likely.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 10th 2022 at 10:48:44 AM

That's always been a thing. One of the Triplicates got taken out by Computo all the way back in the Silver Age. It's sort of a tradition.

Edited by kkhohoho on Jan 10th 2022 at 1:27:58 PM

Man that Legion cartoon was dope.

My favorite version of Brainiac 5 there.

Huh I just now realized, why is this story not in the main JL book? Like it’s the grand finale of Bendis’ run which is ending in like March but instead JL is doing a story where the Royal Flush Gang robs the Fortress of Solitude with absolutely no build up of any kind to the Legion crossover.

So either the book ends without any resolution, a total anti-climax or the Flush Gang’s fucking with Superman’s shit actually leads into the Legion story so it ends building up an event that’s already happening.

Okay shit, Snyder’s JL run was resolved on the Death Metal event but at least that book started after his JL run ended. There is a clear enough transition point, JL ends thus go read Death Metal. It’s not perfect but it makes sense, more sense than starting your final book in the middle of your other book doing an apparently unrelated arc.

This whole thing smells of rushed sudden cancellations. By the end of his run Bendis is is gonna tally up to a scant 15 issues which is quite embarrassing for someone handling the flagship title unless he was nothing more than a filler writer.

Oh my god, why didn't I realize that until you brought it up?! Actually, wait, the main JL book is having a crossover with Justice League Dark (probably not co-written by Ram V, so be prepared for Detective Chimp to comment on something juvenile and OOC like flinging poo at stuff), so maybe that could lead into the LOSH crossover?

Though at this point, I can't trust Bendis to even do that.

Even IDW's first Transformers run did it better than Bendis' JL run by having tie-ins and concluding epilogues in their main series when it dedicated the confrontation with the final boss to a miniseries! (I mean, Lost Light was doing its own thing, but that's beside the point.) Goddamn it, Bendis!

No, I suspect DC thought JL would be the good one since Young Justice and LOSH bombed as hard as they did. You know, because the third time is evidently the charm? But I guess that's not always true.

And you're right. You are spitting so many facts right now that it might as well be a waterfall! Most of Bendis' whole bout in DC has been nothing but ongoings cut abruptly short and miniseries that attempt to justify the ongoings, but can't even do that.

Bendis's Avengers run had its grand finale in the Age of Ultron event series, too.

It's an outgrowth of the general thing of moving stories that are "big enough" to the event model. It means that the big stories aren't happening in the actual series.

I can't fathom how that treatment would have affected some of the bigger comics of the past. Would X-Men have had its sustained success if Marvel decided that the Dark Phoenix Saga was too important to just conclude in X-Men #137? If it had its own dedicated series because it was so important, that just makes crystal clear that it's not worth reading sequential issues of any series, because if it's "important" enough, it'll be an event.

Okay that’s double-page spread of like 20 character talking, Bendis is obsessed with this. Just so much fucking talking, talk, talk, talk.

They say brevity is the soul of wit, Bendis does not comprehend that. It’s like he’s made it his personal philosophy to go to the opposite extreme of that. It’s not even clever or anything it’s just so much unnecessary chatter and about stupid-ass shit.

Like he actually has Black Adam of all characters say “Never apologize for being in awe of the awesome.”

I mean, the problem isn't everyone talking and talking and talking. It's that what they're talking about isn't interesting or compelling. You can have characters talk for hours on end if it's written well enough, but Bendis' characters always talk the same and don't say much that's worth talking about. Half his dialogue in Avengers was 'witty banter' without anything else to it, and it wasn't even that witty.

Edited by kkhohoho on Jan 11th 2022 at 5:41:00 AM

That’s exactly what I mean, it’s all incredibly unnecessary.

Like say Christopher Priest’s Deathstroke had a lot of dialogue but it was primarily one on one conversations and word play and compelling interactions to emphasize the world of deceit Slade Wilson operates in.

This is not that at all. It’s more just rambling, lotta unrelated unimportant conversations just clogging the book.

...

You know, I admittedly don't read a lot of Black Adam stuff.

But even I know that he would never, ever ever ever ever times a billion say anything like...that.

Like, seriously Bendis? Are you being for real right now? Are you bribing your editors to look the other way at this point?

I...I just...I can't even...

(*breathes in...and out*)

This is not okay. Not by a long shot.

If I ever work in anything to do with creative writing, I'm going to hang a gold plaque reading "brevity is the soul of wit." Because I'm going to follow that thought religiously and do what it takes to never be Bendis.

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jan 11th 2022 at 11:46:35 AM

That seems like exactly the kind of thing Black Adam would say, given how old he is and all.

Edited by ArthurEld on Jan 11th 2022 at 8:14:06 AM

I don’t think so, Adam is more of an arrogant sophisticated type and even then he’s not referring to himself with that line.

For full context the Legion show up and Naomi feels overwhelmed by them, which leads to Adam saying the line.

So he’s essentially praising another group for no reason.

Awesome is a very old-fashioned word, it's only recently been co-opted to mean "very cool."

It often shows up in Biblical translations for that same reason. It's the kind of word a guy like Adam would use in the old-fashioned sense.

The same way Golden Age Joker referred to his "boner" and didn't mean "erection."

Yeah, I agree, doesn't sound like Adam's using it in a Totally Radical sense - more like a "Behold, the awesome power of such-and-such!" way.

Though I would be very amused if Adam ever had to, for whatever reason, be all "How do you do, fellow kids?"

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Jan 11th 2022 at 11:40:16 AM

Well he also likes talking about cows so that’s possible.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 11th 2022 at 8:47:18 AM

I kinda got the same impression.

It's just that the opinion on Bendis here is so low that everyone jumped to the worst possible interpretation.

Frankly DC just feels like its spinning its wheels running the clock down till they can Relaunch everything with a new crisis

I mean, they were going all in on 5G, yeah? Not because they wanted it, but DiDio pushed for it so hard that no one bothered with a Plan B?

I might not be surprised if it turns out that Infinite Frontier was built just because they had to do something with the 5G stuff and the impending Great Darkness event will be the launch of the proper DiDio-free era of DC.

I kinda figure 5G was also a mandate from higher up, i.e. Warner Brothers wanted ready-made alternatives to more "traditional" takes on the big I Ps like Superman and Batman. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the stuff with Jon doesn't filter into whatever the live action films are 5-10 years down the road.

It all does feel like an attempt to capture Marvel's success with characters like Miles and Kamala Khan.

And I just realized we haven’t seen the Future State Flash since FS, huh.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 12th 2022 at 11:42:27 AM

Weirdly, it was DC management that spent years sabotaging any chance at equaling the fan energy for characters like Miles, Kamala, Kate Bishop, etc. See Cass Cain and Stephanie Brown for instance, who were left on the sidelines/in limbo for years. Or the various characters killed off in Heroes in Crisis because the people involved wanted to do another Identity Crisis. Among the dead characters, Solstice (South Asian) and Hotspot (African-American).

DC has a lot of catching up to do. But ideally, characters like Cass and Steph would have had their own books years ago.

Edited by PennyDreadful on Jan 12th 2022 at 11:41:27 AM

It was WB that pulled the plug on 5G, so I think 5G was strictly Didio's idea.

Edited by StarformDCX on Jan 12th 2022 at 5:04:11 AM

And the writing staff also seemed pretty cold with the idea. Man, Di Dio couldn't read the mood, could he?

It's rather telling that of all the FS series, IF Flash has absolutely no interest in continuing any of that.

Of course FS Flash involved wiping out the entire Flash family to make way for a new apparently unrelated character so its understandable.

That said, I think Future State Flash is a great character and so want to see more of them.