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he actually does. but he's trapped in a universe under Bleediacs control

really? is this a futures end thing?

would explain why I never knew about it I quit that after issue six

it was revealed at the end of superman doomed that there is a giant brainiac in the bleed whos collected pre-fp and pre-crisis earths. that giant bleediac just fought the new stormwatch is futures end which has gotten a lot better.

Brainiac has basically upgraded himself to an Anti-Monitor level abomination.

Okay, so, I was reading a comic at the library today, and I came across a villain called Eclipso.

I have heard there's like three or four versions of him, and a lot of weird backstory. Something about Lucifer making the "Heart of Darkness", being the wrath of God or something, and then being thrown out in favour of The Spectre.

I gave up trying to read the wiki, because a lot of the information there seems to conflict with information from elsewhere.

So who is this guy?

eclipso is weird in the new 52 but hes old testament gods wrath trapped in a gem.

I always thought it was an evil space gem.

its from gemworld.

So it's his gem that makes him like that? I thought it was a weird tattoo.

nah. the gem makes people be possessed by eclipso. who had that fac thing

yeah as mentioned hes the wrath of god trapped in a gem....if the gem is touched by an angry person the wrath can possess the person who touches it and turns them into eclipso. Theres been three high profile carriers of the eclipso curse pre new 52

Bruce gordon: the original host a scientist who was scratched by the gem and the eclispo being possesed him during eclipses.

Alex montez: brother of a superhero who was killed by eclipso he worked for the jsa and was attempting to break down all the gems eclipso was in and injected the liquid into himself. It kind of went the way you thought it would and he died

I hear alex actually is the current host in the new 52 but someone else will have to confirm that

Jean loring: After Alex died the eclipso entity having no new way to possess people made a deal with darkseid (it was countdown....all was crap then) to be bonded by a willing host. It turned out the gems that eclipso used to be stuck in was apokalips born. Anyway the last remaining gem ended up in the hands of the newly psychotic jean loring fresh from killing sue dibny and she became eclipso until she died in countdown

after that he returns to bruce gordon and thats pretty much who eclipso was until the new 52 happened

...Jean Loring? Wait, I remember her. She was the villain from Identity Crisis, right? Psycho-lady who killed someone so that the superheroes would go back home to their wives or something similarly ridiculous.

Yeah, definitely sounds like this guy's had quite the (blood-soaked) history. Apparently menaced Star-Man, the League, Green Lantern...sheesh.

I also recall a Justice League episode that involved him somehow.

Before that, she was the Atom's ex-wife.

Ah, right. Just what I...well, admittedly, remember her most for.

On another note, apparently Alex Luthor Jr. is about to be born. Thoughts on this, anyone?

LEEEEEEEEEEEEETS DOOOOOOOOOOO THE CRIIIIIIIIII-SIIIIIIIIIIIIIS AGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN!!! (Or timewarp again, whatever.)

edited 19th Oct '14 10:03:06 PM by kkhohoho

My first major exposure to Eclipso was back in "Day of Vengeance" when he was possessing Jean Loring. And attempting to seduce the Spectre.

Incidentally, I miss the Shadowpact.

shadowpact was a fun series

That is nasty.

The story that exposed me to him involved a bunch of heroes trying to raid his HQ. A whole lot of em seemed to die. I am guessing Eclipso's one of those guys in DC you really do not want to tangle with.

edited 20th Oct '14 11:38:41 PM by NickTheSwing

Eclipso, to me, is one of those villains that is theoretically A-list in terms of power and threat level, but has never caught on or had a story truly interesting enough to matter in the grand scheme of things. Still, the character keeps getting used, so perhaps I'm in the minority opinion there?

There was that one JSA story. I forgot the name, but it had Eclipso, Obsidian, and Morlun (or whatever that wizard's name is,) all teaming up to spread eternal darkness across the world. It was a pretty good story, though admittedly, Eclipso wasn't really the main villain of it, and the way he got beaten (by getting trapped within someone who could actually control Eclipso, at least at first,) was far from an epic beatdown. It still made sense, but it didn't make Eclipso seem like an A-grade threat, honestly.

Of course, the Nu52 might make that tale a moot point. Yet another reason why I've never really bothered with it.

Morlun's a Marvel character. Are you thinking of Mordru, maybe?

Yes, that was Mordru.

Eclipso is indeed one of those villains that has an interesting concept, but has never really clicked, despite numerous attempts to push him towards having "heat."

Back during his original run, when he was very much a Jekyll/Hyde character. "villain and hero in one man!" the problem was that the Comics Code prevented his Eclipso side from ever having a permanent victory. So either Gordon would reverse the effects of the latest Eclipso doomsday plot, a random bright light would bollix things for Eclipso at the moment of triumph, or Eclipso would "win" by thwarting another villain's plan.

He also tended to be inconsistent in his goals, sometimes working towards world domination, other times obsessed with getting rich, and a few times just interested in killing off his Gordon side to find a new host. (Whether he was the evil part of Gordon or a completely separate personality that just lived in Gordon's body also was inconsistent.)

Like many author pet villains in later years, he would show up and be all that in several different books at the same time for a few months, then go away for a year or two, then have another spate of being pushed.

Yeah, it kinda came off that he was a couple different characters.

Gotta wonder what a Revenge Demon wants with money or stealing stuff...though I am guessing things were invented later, and the character was simply reutilized.

On another note, I cannot help but feel, after watching Linkara's videos on The Culling that Harvest was a massively wasted character. His revealed backstory is, to me at least, pretty damn tragic. His design is awesome. The concept behind the character is great. Terrible what bad writing does...

"Princes of Darkness," yeah...but that was very much a Mordru story first, an Obsidian story second. It's hard to even say it was an Eclipso story third - Eclipso was just muscle to raise the stakes. The plan was all Mordru and Obsidian, with Obsidian finishing a character arc as part of the story and Mordru taking a major, major loss to the JSA after menacing them off and on for the past 50 issues. Eclipso, on the other hand, seemed to be there only to finish the story of a barely-introduced side-character who then went on to become Eclipso and not have much of a shelf life.

No matter what DC does, it seems that other characters just generate more heat. Though, Mordru...didn't he start off as a Legion of Superheroes villain? Some kind of "rival of the Time Trapper"?