Dragonball Fanfiction

I want to start with I suck at writing, but I'm great at ideas. I just want to throw ideas out there just in case someone wants to roll with it. The story would be a crossover between Naruto and dragon ball and it would be around a teen gohan right after the cell saga going thru the Naruto affecting the main storyline as minimal as possible just a few changes here and there. And it would end the hole Naruto verse getting transported to the dbz timeline right at the beginning of the buu saga. In this fanfic chakra and ki are one and the same they were just named differently and it just evolved over time. Gohan would get there for some unknown reason and lost all his memories. Forgetting the immense power that he has and his supersaiyan transformations. Meets Naruto at the beginning when he gets tricked to help Him steal the scroll. Learns how to do shadow clone jutsu as well and that is what puts him in the academy. Looses his arm kinda like in his future self(gets prostethic arm later on) and his eye(gets a sharingan). Now for him to get a sharing an we all know they are limited in the world of Naruto. So we can make it a story arc surrounded about Danzo where gohan gets into the anbu or oroshimaru. I still got some more ideas but they are all scrambled still lol

All I know about Naruto is from fanfiction I've been linked to because I hated the manga and anime.

...I honestly liked the fanfiction better, for whatever that's worth.

If Pan became Super Saiyan God, and if Beerus got a good enough fight from Videl to appease him, would Whis take Videl to train her on their planet? Would Videl want to go? And have her baby born by a weird blue foodie midwife?

What's the timeline for when Vegeta goes to train with Whis versus Pan being born anyway, I forget the exact timeline in Super.

This is still the greatest fic.

EDIT: For some reason I am also weirdly really super into the AU of Gine raising Goku on Earth conceptually.

Like. I think I might almost be projecting? I'm an aromantic single mom, so Dragon Ball as the story of an aromantic single mom has a bizarre appeal to me.

Although I guess Gine isnt so much aromantic as much as extremely romantic in a species that (aside from the Royal Family) is seemingly supposedly almost entirely aromantic.

But then again, Bardock would be dead and/or gone by the time Gine got to Earth anyway. So Gine wouldnt be looking for anyone else.

...I want to think Gine would have an impact on the way Goku treats girls.

Like. Instead of telling people's sexes by patting their crotch, she would teach him to sniff people.

I want to believe that's what Saiyan social interaction is like.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 17th 2018 at 10:32:29 AM

Does anybody have advice for doing a dragon ball crossover despite the disparity between power?

And I already considered slice of life

vegeta needs someone to sit on the couch with him while he learns about bargain sales

Uh... depends on the crossover.

Don't feel obligated to use characters from the Super or GT era, if that's your concern. Pick a series you want to write a crossover for, then pick a Saga of Dragon Ball or Z and decided on which characters to use from there.

So I was wrong, and in Battle of Gods they do seem to indicate that they were specifically channeling into Goku. And when Whis shows Goku, Beerus seems to indicate that Goku looks most like the Super Saiyan God he saw.

...But he only specifically mentions Goku's orange and blue gi, which Pan wears in the end of Z. And there's my loophole.

And the moment I brought it up I loved the idea of Videl sneezing and the other five looking at her, and their concern and attention focusing on her making the energy flow to her instead of Goku.

In the movie, Beerus doesnt even use any blasts until the cave? Just punches and kicks and blocks. Goku never even does the Kamehameha until they get to space. He uses Instant Transmission in the cave though.

And as Piccolo notes, Beerus seems to be training Goku more than anything. Mostly just talking.

Which raises the question of what Beerus and Videl would even have to talk about.

A thing I notice in Battle of Gods and the Super Manga is that Beerus is weirdly moral? He gets upset that Gotenks is fighting, and about the violence in the bit with Trunks and Mai, and he notes that Freeza and the Saiyans were jerks. And in the Super Manga the planet he blows up at the beginning was trying to poison him, and he says something about the evil in their hearts or whatever.

Honestly, part of my interest in Videl/Pan as the Super Saiyan God is in reaction to A Us I've seen where Gohan gets it. As much as I like Gohan's character, a lot of why Battle of Gods works is Goku's interest in fighting, and how he and Beerus have that in common. And Gohan just doesnt have that interest.

Videl does, though. And Pan in the end of Z parallels kid Goku a lot.

Even after Spopovich, Videl's ready to go again right away when she gets the Senzu bean, and even wants to fight Spopovich again when Gohan is getting drained.

An immature part of me demands I make a joke about Videl wanting to be the one to suck Gohan off.

Anyway, as much as Videl seemingly accepted Gohan and the others being stronger during Buu, in peacetime I can imagine her still wanting to better herself, for her own sake. Fuck Toriyama and Toei for not having my imagination specifically.

And thank Kami for whoever came up with Great Saiyaman 2.

Gohan fights for others, whereas the sense I always got with Videl is that. She has a sense of justice, and doing the right thing and protecting the innocent, but she always ultimately fought for herself.

The motivations were screwy, and developed from being in her dad's shadow. But her love of martial arts seemed genuine. The greatest crime of Super to my mind is throwing that away.

I think, though, that I'm not sure how she would feel about getting the Super Saiyan God power up and being important. In a weird way it'd be reversing her character development in Buu.

But the thing is. In my book, even negative character development is still a form of character development when done properly. Sometimes people regress. Have a relapse.

It has to be written and plotted with care, though.

And in a weird way, it would only be possible because of Gohan, and because she was going to be a mom, and none of the power would actually be hers.

I think on some level, I do think Beerus would be way more interested in Pan than Videl per se, for whatever that's worth. But he also wouldn't know much about her and would only have her mom to go off of.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 22nd 2018 at 9:45:18 AM

Blame Traditional Gender Roles. They really hamstring themselves with that particular attitude, I'd say.

I weirdly love this fic of Videl getting mad at Piccolo and then Gohan.

I especially love Piccolo just letting her rip his arm off the first time because he deserved it. And stopping her the second time because of course he can, power levels.

There's a weird balance there but it's fun.

I imagine Videl training, maybe not to be the strongest on Earth the way she did before Buu, but still to be the strongest Videl in the universe.

Hell, they could have a scene of her at the Gym or something. Have her in an unfashionable ugly tracksuit going for a jog. Something. Anything other than the eternal inescapable abyss of housewife.

...Heck, maybe her hairband, wristbands, belt and boots in Battle of Gods are all weighted. And her training is basically just looking fabulous.

Anyway, for a "Ee-arth mom Gine" AU. Because that's my other obsession in Dragon Ball fics.

For some reason I sometimes imagine the reason she goes to Earth being that Bardock sensed she was pregnant again, but then that gets into the territory of oh no now we have to actually deal with Goku having a younger sibling.

Which is especially upsetting since I was already wondering whether Gine should get an "Earth name" like Goku is to Kakarot.

The name puns are the hardest part of Dragon Ball fanwork.

...I don't want any woman subjected to Roshi being Roshi, but like, I'm trying to picture what I think low-class Saiyan society is like, and for some reason I'm not picturing her noticing or telling the difference? Just responding with confusion at worst if she notices anything weird.

The fact that Bardock and Gine were apparently weird to the Saiyans because they pair bonded makes me think Saiyan mating is mostly orgies or something.

I want to imagine the Saiyans don't really quite have perverts? And I think Gine probably didn't carry her children to term in a pregnancy for Goku and Raditz, because in Dragon Ball Minus they seem to have these gestation pod things. Making Saiyan breasts and Saiyan pregnancy to term start to seem like an evolutionary dead-end that the Saiyans are/were starting to replace with technology in their service to the PTO.

...I mean, given Super says that Saiyan men liked dominant, strong, aggressive women, and Gine is. Not quite that. The closest thing to a Saiyan pervert would probably be Bardock. The filthy degenerate who likes monogamy and hand-holding and cuddling.

...I'm trying to justify Gine having a hick accent too, but I can't, except maybe for some Earth-exclusive words and terms or concepts that she had to learn from Gohan, like please and thank you.

Saiyans supposedly don't typically care about family, with Bardock potentially having brothers he doesn't know or care about (which might be where Turles comes from) so Gine gets to Earth and gets the dad she never had. So that's nice maybe. Son Gine.

I think Goku's sexual mores would probably (?) be different, even if he still ended up hitting his head. Like. Pat-pating people and taking off Bulma's panties wouldn't happen.

...Speaking of panties, for some reason I'm picturing Goku and Gine just sorta keeping those stretchy Saiyan panties, and then Bulma noticing them at some point if someone goes Oozaru. Jaco and Dragon Ball Minus had panels of Goku in Saiyan armor with Gohan, so. I don't know why Bulma reverse engineering Saiyan/PTO stretch clothes and battle armor really early on appeals to me.

...I know Saiyans are more like monkeys than dogs, but the Oozaru is sorta like a werewolf, so for some reason I imagine Gine teaching her children to sniff people's butts.

Although, more monkey-like, I'm also imagining Gine putting Goku in her lap and going through his hair for fleas/lice. I also imagine her trying to adopt Krillin and getting disappointed by him being bald.

I'm picturing Gine's involvement in the tournament arc being because Goku's first response to Roshi asking for a girl is to get his mom. Possibly (?) younger Earth-born sister if that idea gets run with, because said sister, if a sister, would be a girl, and Goku doesn't know what Roshi means or is talking about anyway.

If Roshi says "cute girl", for example.

Roshi ends up having to feed two or three Saiyans, because I think he deserves that, at the very least.

Gine would probably be a pretty free-range parent, what with the sending babies off to conquer planets thing being normal, and if she does have any more overbearing aspects it would be something she learned from Gohan asking where she was going and the like. So I can believe her just having nothing to do with some arcs like Red Ribbon and Tao Pai Pai.

...For some reason I'm picturing the Raditz fight going sorta off-course depending primarily on when Gine shows up.

I have this weird image of Gine showing up during the full-nelson, shocking Goku into letting go of Raditz because Raditz starts trying to go towards her, Piccolo Makenkosoppo-ing Goku but not Raditz, and then Gine finishing the 'fight' by just completely momming Raditz into submission.

Like, I'm picturing the bit in the first Xenoverse where Raditz elbows Goku into letting go.

...Skipping ahead to Battle of Gods, I weirdly want Gine to have a flashback to Vegeta (the king) showing up to her in a panic to provide the finest cuts of meat on Vegeta (the planet) because she's the best butcher they have.

And maybe that's how Vegeta (the prince) got partnered with Raditz for Dragon Ball Minus.

Underneath everything, Satan is a great man

I approve of and like that whole fic, but that chapter is the one where I decided, "no, actually, this is good enough to share"

Go back to chapter 1 if you guys wanna.

So I read a fanfic where Colonel Violet from Red Ribbon joins the main cast, and I weirdly like that idea?

Or, at least, I like her design, anyway.

Realistically she'd either vanish from the plot, like Launch, or get Housewife'd like every girl.

...Honestly, part of why I like the idea of Gine as a main-ish character is that she's start at housewife/mom and sorta move out of it/stradle the line.

Realistically, though, part of my love for Gine is. I honestly do like Chichi as a character, even if she's a terrible person. She's ultra conservative and traditionalist. She's not like Western Conservative women (I think the trope is Blonde Republican Sex Kitten which sure is a title) but she is basically sorta the Eastern Asia equivalent.

And, aesthetically and trope-wise, she sorta calls back to Journey to the West being a Chinese story originally, because she's basically a Chinese Princess/Housewife more than anything. And in traditional Chinese marriages, the newlywed bride usually has to move into her mother-in-law's home, and submit to that home's rules and dynamic.

Incidentally, there's. Interesting (?) things that can be done with Videl and Chichi in that context. Videl getting housewife'd could make sense to a degree if she ever interacted with Chichi and we saw how things played out there.

Videl is (...was) headstrong and stubborn in her own right, and she's a city girl and not very traditional. A culture clash between Chichi and Videl would be an interesting story if anyone gave enough of a shit to tell it.

But in a lot of ways, Chichi got ridiculously lucky that she married an alien orphan country monkey. Because in a way, her character archetype and tropes almost crave in-laws, to make her as miserable as she does everyone else.

All of which is to premise a fic rec. Walking Towards the Sunset. About Bardock time travelling to the Great Saiyaman/Buu Saga after Episode of Bardock. I dont recommend it because it's a great masterpiece, there's flaws throughout, bits I could get upset or offended by.

But around Chapter 3, when Bardock and Chichi meet and start interacting, I think the fic positively sings.

Bardock maybe isnt as gruff and rough and tumble and murderous as he was in the Father of Goku special, but he's still enough of those things that, when put up against Chichi, and forced to confront how both Goten and Gohan are soft-hearted weaklings with higher power levels than him, the character dynamic gets hilarious. To me, anyway.

...Gine shows up later but im weirdly disappointed in her portrayal there, because it's more "Gine as she is" than "Gine as she could be". I guess I like the concept of Gine more than her portrayal in the 16 pages of Dragon Ball Minus. It's a broad sketch without a lot of detail.

And, again. Ive read the fic all the way through, and. I dont want to be mean? There's effort and self-improvement there. And places where, even if a dont like something, (probably gender politics wise, because I'm me) it's a problem with the series itself, or at least the wider shonen genre, that I cant quite entirely fault fanfiction for repeating.

But I do want to emphasize how much I love Chichi having to deal with, maybe overbearing, rude, and dirty Saiyan in-laws. It's basically the comeuppance she deserves more than anything.

Chi-Chi's husband doesn't even know what kissing is.

Giving her what she deserves is the equivalent of kicking a puppy while it's down.

True, a jerk puppy that bites you in the groin as soon as you go to pet it, but still.

...How funny is her suffering?

Edited by HandsomeRob on Oct 12th 2018 at 11:33:27 AM

Actually, he specifically just doesnt know what kissing on the mouth is.

Maybe it's just because I'm aromantic and/or a dirty perv, but I can think of plenty of more fun places to kiss.

More to the point, her husband also didnt know what marriage is. All of this is her idea, she's the one who pursued it. It's her responsibility. Nobody knew Goku was an alien, but I get the distinct sense that at that 23rd Budokai she wouldn't actually care much either. She wasn't actually interested in knowing much about Goku before she married him.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 12th 2018 at 7:59:01 AM

Fair enough. It takes me back to what you said in the main thread about how Toriyama still thinks more like a Gag Manga Author even as the series started moving past that.

Goku and Chi-chi's marriage is one of the biggest signs of that.

Nothing about these two being together makes sense.

Two things I didn't know I wanted: Freeza and Whis interactions, and Freeza as an alcoholic.

Also, paperwork. Always paperwork.

EDIT: Oh, it's not a one-shot.

...It's weird how well Freeza interacting with Whis and Beerus works.

And the minutia and day-to-day business of how what Freeza does works weirdly well as a backdrop.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 16th 2018 at 11:26:45 AM

For some reason I got the fanfic idea of Gohan becoming the great saiyaman much earlier than in canon.

Like, during the 10 days wait for the Cell Games.

The idea of an 11 year old in a superhero costume going around and trying to be heroic seems funny to me.

Tales of the Monkey Queen updated! Good job.

The Great Saiyaman is good.

Imagine teen (11, but whatever) Gohan at the Cell Games doing the voice and poses.

...So the new Broly movie might explain it, but I cant tell how old Bardock, Vegeta Sr., Gine, or Paragus are supposed to be?

In the original Broly movie, Paragus mentioned Bardock and seemed to know (of) him, and according to the Supplemental Daizenshu Paragus would have been Bardock's superior? So. I dunno, maybe Paragus was older?

There's multiple references to Vegeta Sr. being the instigator of the war on the Tuffles, but there's no clear timeline on when that was. Or how old he was. Or even how old he was when he had our Vegeta.

...Actually, wait, I'm wrong. According to the wiki, the Tuffle war was Age 720-730. Nappa was born in Age 703-712. Freeza annexed the Saiyans in Age 731, our Vegeta is born Age 732, and Goku is born in Age 736. And Dragon Ball Minus, Jaco the Galactic Patrolman and the destruction of Vegeta take place in Age 739.

That's. Did they make that up? Where the fuck did they get that shit?

Also when the fuck was Raditz born.

...I like to think Nappa is bald because he's so old he's started losing his hair. It contradicts the "Saiyan hair never changes from the day they're born" thing but, I still really like it.

Nappa having to play babysitter to Raditz and Vegeta, the latter of whom was stronger than him even as a kid is a great thing to think about. Especially since, in his own way, Nappa is almost the most "moral" of the Saiyans in the Saiyan Saga. With his sense of camaraderie and loyalty. And Raditz resorts to a lot of tricks of the sort that Nappa seems to look down on. And Vegeta's a teamkilling complete and utter bastard.

Nappa being stressed the hell out by these nasty, disloyal and dishonorable little brats. Is honestly a little great.

Of course, Saiyan aging being what it is, it's weird if he's only 59 at the oldest. It's thought that the maximum potential lifespan of a human body is about ~125 ish. And I want Saiyans to have the same actual lifespan as a human, they just mature and stay in their prime differently.

Goku doesnt start to look his age until he's, what, 17 or 18? And in the end of Z, Vegeta is...

Okay, so, Goku meets Uub in Age 784, so chronologically Vegeta is 52. And he spent two years in the time chamber in Z, and three in Super, making him 57. Older than Nappa's youngest possible age, and only two years below the oldest.

I dont think I like this timeline. Mucking up the headcanons I enjoy.

In Dragon Ball Online, Age 801 is when Goku and Vegeta have their last fight, specifically because age is catching up, when Goku would be chronologically 65? But he spent 8 years dead that dont count physiologically, but also 1 plus 3 years in the time chamber, so. 61?

That's. Hmm.

Vegeta would be. 73? And he still wants to fight Kakarot to the death? When Kakarot is worried about being too old, to fight?

Did Bulma put her sweet prince on a drug cocktail of arthritis meds or something?

Also, like. Being closer to higher gravity decreases the rate time passes for you. Gravity is a force that bends space-time. So Vegeta might be younger in the sense of having experienced less time.

...Or older by experiencing more time- y'know what, I'm not a physicist, but I know gravity does weird shit to time, and Vegeta uses that Gravity chamber a bunch.

I think it's that the closer you are to higher gravity the less time passes for you in the same "absolute" time.

If Vegeta is in the gravity room for exactly an hour, he can power it down and step outside and for everyone else it's been. I dunno, more than an hour. Not a physicist, dont know the exact equations.

Although maybe Bulma, inventor of the time machine, could make some sorta time dilator or counter dilator? Time contractor? Time compressor?

I'm probably thinking way more about the physics than anyone else ever has.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 19th 2018 at 12:24:29 PM

yeah I actually planned Gohan to show up as the great saiyaman in the Cell Games

I don't know why but I think the small superhero work he did before the cell games changes his way of thinking for the Cell Games

Like he's more willing to fight but not unleashing his hidden power if that makes sense

Maybe SS 2 Gohan/Super Gohan 2/Darth Gohan is different, idk

Or maybe he's the same

Dunno, seems fun to think about

Yeah, going from Great Saiyaman heroics to Super Saiyan 2 sadism is a pretty hard swerve.

...So, Dragon Ball Minus and DBS Broly seems to indicate Saiyan infants spend about. 3 years? Ish? In gestation pod things.

There's a whole thing with human reproduction where, human babies are more helpless than the infants of almost any other species. We arent especially well developed at birth. Ideally, to be as self-sufficient as as most primates we'd spend, like, 16 months in utero, but the body of a human with a uterus literally physically cannot support that.

There's some Author's notes in an au fic about Goten's arrival and some last notes about Dragon Ball Minus in that fic.

Like, Goten was 100% canonically born after only 7 months of pregnancy. Otherwise they would have known before the Cell Games, but Goku is surprised in the Buu arc because he didnt know about Goten.

...Honestly, those authors notes and comments I just linked go into a lot of human development science stuff and just Good Shit all around. For me, anyway. I like science.

The idea of Saiyans actually naturally carrying a pregnancy for three years doesnt make sense to me with the way Saiyans seem to be. Caulifla likes punching people too much.

The incubation pods seem to be a thing they adopted after Freeza.

But. In Toriyama's interview for Dragon Ball Minus, he mentions that Bardock and Gine are weird as Saiyans who come together for purposes other than reproduction.

But, like. If they grow their kids in tubes. Why do they need to come together at all?

Unless the kids are conceived naturally, and then placed in the tubes after conception. Possibly after "birth"?

But then I thought, like.

...This might be fucked up, but the idea of Saiyan women taking abortifacents to get the kids out of them to put in the gestation pods is hilarious to me?

Like. Because of the way Saiyans get a Zenkai boost to power level after almost dying. Presumably that applies even at the fetal development stage?

And, like. We see Bulma smoking in the Android Arc even with little Trunks around. Now, granted, when Toriyama was writing I dont remember if the link between maternal smoking in pregnancy and fetal development disorders was proved conclusively?

But with Zenkai taken into account. The concept of amazingly bad and dangerous prenatal care being the norm for Saiyans, and even seen as healthy, is quite honestly hilarious to me.

Of course. This perspective of Saiyan reproduction and development is only possible with Dragon Ball Minus, if Bardock Father of Goku is ignored entirely.

Really, a lot of Saiyan biology hinges on what you assume Raditz actually meant when he says Saiyan "infants" were sent to conquer planets.

Like. He also says that Kakarot "couldnt possibly have forgotten me" even though both Bardock Father of Goku and Dragon Ball Minus seemingly indicate Raditz and Kakarot never met.

So, in hindsight. There are some weirdass retcons there apparently.

The reason I think about Saiyan biology is because I like to imagine what effects it could have on Saiyan psychology and sociology. What effects and causation or reverse causation there could be.

EDIT: I sorta wanna recommend Chronicles of Earth's Defenders. It's flawed, but Ive grown to broadly like it?

Edited by unnoun on Oct 19th 2018 at 4:47:02 AM

I like how none of the arcosians are as strong as Freeza and don't even believe he was that powerful

Gonna be a bloody surprise when they met Trunks

One thing I liked about heroes was the introduction to the xeno versions of the characters

More for their design and the ideas you can form from them

Granted I haven't watched the heroes anime and manga, so my ideas are probably not true but...

I really like to do something with them on a fic

...So, thanks to FighterZ I ship Freeza/Yamcha.

So, have Yamcha helping Freeza give birth to Kuriza

...Freeza was supoosedly "born from his father alone" so I guess they reproduce asexually/parthenogenically.

...I thought it was a really cute, well-written fic, I swear.

This one two.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 20th 2018 at 6:13:34 AM

gotta say, the freeza giving birth is really cute

Also I saw this what if video that's kinda bizarre but also really cool

Basically is Vegerot and Gogeta existed as separate beings from Goku and Vegeta

Hello. I wrote a Perspective Flip fanfic of the Tournament of Power.

The Presence of Ultra Instinct.

I was originally writing a fanfic about Cabba and Caulifla, but that became a Dead Fic because I was too busy. However, this fic is a short fic of only 2000 words, and it involves a lot of O.C. Stand-in regarding Ultra Instinct itself as a character.

I hope you people like it.