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Sep 3rd 2018 at 1:57:53 PM

I remember back in 2015, Pixar animators was working on an adult animated short called "Borrowed Time" which they made in their spare time. I think Disney's to scared to walk out their "Family Friendly" image from the general public.

"A Lady does not start fights but they can finish them"
Sep 3rd 2018 at 2:37:04 PM

Sausage Party could only be made on the budget because it infamously screwed over the animators working on it. Had they paid them a proper salary, Sausage Party wouldn't have been a financial success.

The issue with high quality r-rated animated movies is that they can't hope to make back their budget. Not if they are animated on a Disney level. So they either have to cut corners regarding the animation, or they can't be r-rated.

Sony might manage to push animation more in the direction of more PG-13 fare addressing the usual movie audience more than families specifically with entries like "Into the Spider-verse". But the r-rated market, that will be something you can only do by sticking to an affordable level.

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I.
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Sep 3rd 2018 at 3:36:55 PM

but I suspect the Coachman would be harder to depict in a remotely sympathetic light.

They should try to do that in the remake just for the hell of it.

Give him a deep sympathetic backstory over why he makes his money luring little boys to Pleasure Island, turning them into donkeys and selling them to people.

Edited by Aldo930 on Sep 3rd 2018 at 3:37:03 AM

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Sep 3rd 2018 at 4:15:37 PM

And then say that what he's doing is wrong anyway because it is.

"Learn your place!"
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Sep 3rd 2018 at 10:57:13 PM

What really bothers me about these movies [is] that they're referred to as live-action movies. They are not. [..] Disney is simply afraid to call them that because they see animation as inherently juvenile, and therefore unsuited for a more "serious and mature" take on their movies.

Disney has never actually referred to those upcoming ones as live-action.

"If your good mood was ruined because you got into an accident with a car..."
Sep 4th 2018 at 12:04:17 AM

Just listing what the Coachman does is lurid.

But I bet if they include that, they will also include a scene in which the donkeys are turned back and the Coachman gets his punishment.

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Sep 4th 2018 at 6:17:11 PM

In the video game adaptations you knocked him off a cliff!

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Sep 5th 2018 at 8:49:27 AM

[up]X6

One of Sony's upcoming project's is an R-rated animated movie titled Fixed, to be directed by Genndy Tartakovsky.

Edited by ElSquibbonator on Sep 5th 2018 at 11:49:50 AM

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Sep 5th 2018 at 9:14:19 AM

You know, that was my thought when I heard about it too. But we are now straying from the subject of this thread, which is the works of Disney.

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Sep 9th 2018 at 8:43:18 PM

I remember once seeing a storybook where Dumbo's mouse friend met and hung out with Cinderella's mouse friends.

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Sep 10th 2018 at 5:07:27 PM

Speaking of Dumbo, who here thought the mouse had the same voice actor as Jiminy Cricket in his original appearance? When I first looked it up, it wasn't the case. In fact, the original actor of Jiminy Cricket did the voice of one of the crows.

TheStarscream759 from Maidenhead
Sep 11th 2018 at 4:24:55 AM

I didn't honestly but I can see why you'd think that. I thought Timothy's voice was a bit more Brooklyn-esque in terms of an accent than Jiminy's.

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I.
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Sep 11th 2018 at 5:00:15 AM

Cliff Edwards was also the only white guy among the crows' actors. The rest were from the all-black Hall Johnson choir.

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
Sep 11th 2018 at 5:57:26 AM

You most likely thought it because the two characters are very similar. They have similar movements and use similar phrases. But I always was aware that they didn't have the same voice actor, because Cliff Edwards passes as a celebrity voice actor.

It's actually quite a sad story…one of those cases of early success which eventually ended in poverty. But, to Disney's credit, they actually took care of him in his late days. The animators often took him to lunch and Disney quietly paid some of his medical bills and, together with the Actors Fund of America, ensured that he got a proper burial. And naturally he became a Disney legend later on.

Edited by Swanpride on Sep 11th 2018 at 6:03:27 AM

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I.
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Sep 11th 2018 at 6:24:47 AM

After his body was unclaimed and he was buried in an unmarked grave, but to Disney's credit, they did it when someone alerted them to it.

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
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Sep 11th 2018 at 6:57:34 AM

I think pixar is the worst example. It has become terribly stagnant in this past decade, yet movies like incredibles 2 break the billion dollar club with minimal effort (i think brad bird put in effort, still feels a bit lackluster compared to original)

Disney Animation, one of the biggest forces of this decade, with a sudden comeback proved that people respond better to originality and risks. I think the fact that wreck-it-ralph 2 is coming out and the only other film on the horizon is frozen2 is a testament to the fact that disney feels more comfortable making remakes than testing out the waters with films like zootopia and big hero 6, two movies that are rather unique in the landscape of animated films, and movies that people responded to.

I think the sad thing is that disney/pixar has the talent to support and test out what animation can do, but are becoming too risk averse to do it. Its hard to say now, especially with Lasseter out of the picture, but I'm not sure if animation with improve again or continue on this downard slope.

Edited by JoyandPeace on Sep 11th 2018 at 6:58:27 AM

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Sep 11th 2018 at 8:11:42 AM

[up] Toy Story 4 will apparently be Pixar’s last sequel for quite a while.

Excelsior!
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Sep 11th 2018 at 10:38:42 AM

@Aldo. Wasnt that Bobby Driscoll?

...It happened TWICE!?

Edited by AegisP on Sep 11th 2018 at 10:41:02 AM

Too late, I'm already judging you. Here I go judging. Ahem. "That person spells 'Mmm' with seven M's. What a weirdo."
Sep 11th 2018 at 11:45:44 AM

Disney goes for a mix between the sequels, which are sure money makers, and the experimental movies, which are not. As long as movies like Coco, Zootopia, Inside Out aso are still happening, I am ready to let them do it.

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Sep 11th 2018 at 12:05:40 PM

I know Pixar and Disney not is getting criticism for going the sequel route, but many other students like Dreamworks, Illumination, and Blue Sky are worse about the sequel thing.

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Sep 11th 2018 at 12:33:00 PM

They are also making worse sequels than Disney. At least when Disney does one, it tries to give its very best.

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I.
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Sep 11th 2018 at 12:35:18 PM

[up][up][up][up] Yes, but as it turned out I was wrong. His body was not buried unmarked; it was donated to a medical school. Disney quickly discovered that it had happened, though, and his body was claimed and buried properly.

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
Sep 12th 2018 at 9:00:24 PM

Pooh and Piglet are getting Nendoroids, and they included that one memetic moment of Pooh critically looking at a piece of paper.

firewriter Bulla to Earthlings, Echalote to Saiyans.
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Sep 14th 2018 at 10:20:37 AM

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How cute.

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