Since we've gotten told to stop talking generally about religion twice in the Homosexuality and Religion thread and were told that, if we want to talk generally about religion, we need to make a new thread, I have made a new thread.
Full disclosure: I am an agnostic atheist and anti-theist, but I'm very interested in theology and religion.
Mod Edit: All right, there are a couple of ground rules here:
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edited 9th Feb '14 1:01:31 PM by Madrugada
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I shot the Pas—never mind...
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
I just learned something new about my own religion (Islam) today while watching a TV program on MBC that discusses one topic each day and shows alternative views, often seriously debunking widely held beliefs through carefully examining the passages of Quran or Sunnah that are usually cited in support of the conventional opinion(s).
This new thing I learned? Apostasy has only ever been prescribed death as punishment in case a person didn't merely renounce Islam, but became actively belligerent towards Islam and/or the Muslim community in general (e.g. declaring open war). There are even several examples of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) of leaving known apostates alone unless they committed an unrelated crime (e.g. murder).
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Grr... <3
I don't think there is any religion that has ever prescribed a punishment worse that banishment for leaving the faith.
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That's very nice to know. Like, it's a matter of life and death for some people. Can you give me references on that?
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
I'm afraid I don't remember any off the top of my head, but you could watch the program's episodes on this site
(the relevant episode is here, merely 6 minutes long). Yeah, MBC got into its head that some people would like to watch things online instead of through good ol' TV.
edited 17th Jun '16 1:59:10 PM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
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I guess they saw what MEMRI was doing and decided to take control of the narrative.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
"Blocked in USA" I have literally never seen that message before. Who is blocking it?
I think there’s a global conspiracy to see who can get the most clicks on the worst lies
Grr... <3
Both your links ran into the utf url bug. Can you copy the second half of your links in plain text? (second half only, after the last /)
Edit: nvm: Let's stress test utf in the forums! https://shahid.mbc.net/ar/episode/142992/مٯ٧ٱك-٧لموٳم-1-٧ل٭لق٩-12.html
edited 17th Jun '16 4:19:22 PM by war877
Works fine for me. I'm totally lost on the site, but I can get to it just fine.
War's link is blocked for me as well.
edited 18th Jun '16 6:43:14 PM by DeMarquis
I think there’s a global conspiracy to see who can get the most clicks on the worst lies
Grr... <3
Time to pull out the proxies. Anyway, because (I'm guessing) Arabic is right to left, the 12- may have ended up on the wrong side of the url after reconstruction. Not sure if that helps. It does not seem to be blocked in canada.
One possible reason is someone may have secured broadcast rights in the US that prohibit online streaming from a different source.
I'm sure it's some sort of commercial rights shenanigans.
I think there’s a global conspiracy to see who can get the most clicks on the worst lies
Attempt to hold pan-Orthodox synod stalls over disputes
More Orthodox Than Thou.
edited 19th Jun '16 1:37:33 PM by TerminusEst
Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
Question: How do you deal with door-to-door missionaries? I'm a Christian too, but they keep trying to convert me to other denominations I'm uninterested in.
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
The law in the night
Shotgun.
Inter arma enim silent leges
Grr... <3
I only got a Jehova's witnesses once. I smiled, nodded, said no thanks, and gently closed the door in their smiling faces.
edited 26th Jun '16 12:06:33 AM by war877
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
Go build a shrine to the Flying Spaghetti Monster next to the mailbox.
I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
I tend to just refuse politely, i.e. tell them I'm content with my current denomination. That usually suffices.
I just wish they wouldn't ring at such un-Christian times. Seriously, who wants to talk about God on a Saturday morning?
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Collector Of Fine Oddities
Usually just politely decline. J Ws as of late have been pretty scarce due to the hostility of the countryside, but on the odd occasion they do show up the adults stay in their vehicles and they send little kids to the doors. Pushiest ones I've seen were Baha'i missionaries when I was young (haven't seen them in years, locals would probably just take shots at the for being muslims nowadays), but my parents just invited them in and shared some coffee while they debated religion for an hour before saying their farewells.
Formerly G.G.
My cousin came to visit me the other day and sh mentioned something about there being a one true religion and anything else is just false. I got to ask, is there ever a one true religion?
"We are just like Irregular Data. And that applies to you too, Ri CO. And as for you, Player... your job is to correct Irregular Data."
Sure there is: Yours.
It's kind of obligatory to assume that religious ideologies that contradict your own are false in at least some manner. Having said that, there are religions that don't contradict enough that you could follow them both.
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
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The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
And there are cases where Religion A asserts the existence of a lineage-type relationship between it and Religions B, C, et al. (which are typically older than Religion A), often with Religion A claiming that i supersedes Religions B, C, et al. Such is the case with the Abrahamic religions: Christianity is Judaism's successor, and Islam is the successor to both. In fact, the Abrahamic faiths as a whole assert that they supersede a number of previous faiths that were preached by prophets/messengers who are mentioned in the Bible (or the Quran and certain hadiths, in Islam's case).
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Depends. In the Evangelic Lutheran Church, a vicar (not ordained) is an intership for becoming a pastor. A pastor is simply an ordained priest who is a leader of a congregation.
Vicar in the Catholic sense, means deputy or representative (vicar of Christ = Pope). Pastor is a priest of a parish.
edited 14th Jun '16 10:34:18 AM by TerminusEst
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