Marvel Comics General

More like an entry.

Right, entry,

Well, I better get on that.

Also, I edited the entry in the We Re Still Relevant Dammit page since they lost their work page.

So how bout that Dan Slott documentary, huh?

Imagine producing a documentary that exposes that your heralded "Marvel Method" actually really fucking sucks.

What exactly is the Marvel Method again?

Draw first, story later, I think.

I think it's the opposite—story OUTLINE first, draw later. https://dmedmedia.disney.com/disney-plus/marvels-616/episode-7

"Comic book veteran Dan Slott is among the last remaining writers to collaborate using the storied “Marvel Method,” an approach where a writer develops and passes a plot summary to an artist to construct the visual action and story beats. Separated by thousands of miles as they work on Marvel’s new Iron Man 2020 comic book series, co-creators Slott and Pete Woods, along with Marvel editor Tom Brevoort, race to meet the first issue’s print deadline and debut one of the first Marvel comics of the decade."

This article on it is pretty funny. https://www.cbr.com/marvel-comics-marvel-method-depictions/

Edited by lalalei2001 on Nov 22nd 2020 at 4:07:57 AM

Writer makes a rough outline of the story.

Artist takes the outline and draws art that is his interpretation of it.

Writer gets the art back and adds specific dialogue.

It works when everyone wants to get the work out fast and is working. That does not seem to be the case with Slott.

Edited by Beatman1 on Nov 22nd 2020 at 1:08:17 AM

"The Marvel Method, on the other hand, leaves the layout of the pages to the discretion of the artists, who are working from a more general plot. The plot is typically derived via a story conference between the scripter and the artist. After the pages are drawn, the scripter then adds dialogue to the drawn pages.

The biggest drawback in this method is that if the artist didn't do a good enough of a job on the pages, the editor (in the case of Marvel, the editor was also the scripter of the issue) would have the artist redo pages until the story was "right." Joe Orlando once famously noted that he would often have to draw 25-30 pages to get the 20 pages for the story. Marvel, of course, would not pay for those unused pages."

Not sure why Slott agreed to be part of a Documentary that showed what a shitty worker he could be.

You'd think he'd either decline being part of it, or at least try to do better so he wouldn't look bad.

Maybe they used the Marvel Method setting it up. XD

What was the saying about working on comics?

You need to be two out of nice, good, and on time?

As I recall the method was created back when writers were writing a ton of series at once necessitating a quick style of writing to get through them all.

Which doesn’t work not when writers are more focused on what they write. How many series is Slott writing?

I think it was specifically Stan Lee during the Atlas and early Marvel days.

My understanding was that Slott was writing both Fantastic Four and Iron Man until a new writer took over for the latter.

Probably because he's terrible. Like, the documentary repeatedly shows that Slott makes everyone's lives harder because he's very easily distracted, because he just cannot stop searching his own name on twitter and harassing people.

Like, people were begging Dan to send them script for lettering and art, with days before the issue was supposed to go out for print. One issue completely eats through all their lead time. It's inexcusable.

Edited by SonOfSharknado on Nov 22nd 2020 at 8:18:31 AM

Where can I watch this documentary?

Disney+. I think it's called Marvel 616.

So Dan Slott's 0 for 3 is what you're saying.

Slott's Silver Surfer was well received from what I remember and Superior Spider-Man was a sales hit even if it was very divisive.

Dan Slott has written two good things. Superior Spider-Man, at least the beginning of it, and Spider Island. Everything else, mediocre to bad.

Although, I haven't read his Sliver Surfer run, so maybe he's written three good things.

Edited by LunaStar on Nov 22nd 2020 at 7:02:03 PM

His She-Hulk was pretty good.

Unrelated but I recently got an Immortal Hulk omnibus 1 trade (among other books) for my birthday, collects up to the first 15 issues & a No Surrender issue.

Damn this shit is dope. Ducking scary & the Hulk is once again shown as among the most powerful beings on Earth. Guy fucking clobbered the Avengers.

Also gives me another reason to read No Surrender just to see how Devil Hulk further tears apart the Avengers there.

Was that the one where she slept with Juggernaut?

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 22nd 2020 at 9:03:32 AM

He probably thought it would be humorous.

You're thinking of Chuck Austin.

His Thing book was also fun and i enjoyed his Mighty Avengers book.

I also remember enjoying his Doc Samson book.

Edited by Cortez on Nov 22nd 2020 at 1:13:32 PM

The thing is that the people that watch the documentary who aren’t into inside baseball or that invested into comics probably will think it’s funny

I heard nothing but good things about his She-Hulk run. And no matter what people think of it quality wise he did have the longest run on Spider-Man in history. Hence why I'm baffled that he can't stick to a schedule now given that he he worked on the flagship title for the company for 8+ years.