To be honest, that nearly everybody. The video games have a long history of simplifying the characters and boiling them down to a handful of repetitive moves - even Goku. Nearly everyone gets hit with it: Krillin becomes the kienzan guy, Tien becomes the kikoho guy, Roshi and Goku and Gohan becomes walking kamehameha, Vegeta and Piccolo each get boiled down to three moves, etc - there's a distinct amount of "what do you mean the characters can do other things?" in most DBZ video games.
FighterZ is unique in that it actually looks at how the characters fight and cool stuff they've done throughout the series, and builds movelists based on as much as possible.
Best Uncle tends to be my nickname for Krillin after rewatching the Namek Saga.
Funnily enough, this caught me just cause I just came from rewatching a few FighterZ cutscenes which once again made me wish we could see more scenes with Krillin and Vegeta interacting togther. As two of the three characters in the trifecta of "Goku's closest friends" (those two and Bulma), the two of them interact with Goku, the two of them interact with Bulma, but the two don't really interact with each other, and I do think they would interact well in the right situations.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 14th 2022 at 9:07:25 AM
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That pause makes it sound like Maron can't remember his name. Which I can believe.
Anime Only: Life returns to normal across the Earth. We join Krillin and Maron on a shopping trip. Krillin carries a pile of gift boxes because cliche. However, he trips on his way through a revolving door to exit a shop, faceplanting on the ground and dropping all of Maron's packages. Naturally, Maron yells at him for it.
Krillin looks up to see a blond man with blue eyes dressed in a blue suit smirking at him. The man is seated in the driver's seat of a bright red sports car convertible, reminiscent of the one Krillin had at the start of the arc. Maron is leaning back against the hood of the car, facing Krillin.
Krillin apologizes to Maron and starts sorting through the packages to pick them back up again. But this only makes the man smirk even more obnoxiously.
Meanwhile, at Capsule Corporation, Bulma gets a call from the Muten-Roshi. He urges her to come to Kame House quickly. It's an emergency!
The next call goes to Yamcha, currently in the midst of a baseball game. Then to the Son Residence; Gyumao answers, addressing Muten-Roshi-sama by name; Chi-Chi, washing the dishes, panics and juggles her dishwear upon hearing it. The last call goes unanswered in a house with teal wallpaper. As the phone rings, we pan over to a photograph of Maron and Krillin together. Krillin's dogi hangs on the wall.
Speaking of Krillin and Maron, we see them making the shop rounds some more. Krillin wonders about Maron's feelings for him. That guy from earlier got inside his head. Would Maron be happier with a rich guy like—
Maron squeals, calling Krillin's attention to a gorgeous wedding dress in the window of a store. She calls Krillin's attention to it, saying she wants to try it on. Recognizing the kind of dress it is puts Krillin's fears out of mind.
Funi Krillin regrets that Goku isn't here for him to ask advice from.
The dress sends Krillin into a fantasy about his wedding day. He and Maron walk arm-in-arm out of a Christian chapel, dressed in a white suit and that wedding dress. His friends all watch and clap for him. Goku personally addresses Krillin, congratulating him on how lucky he is. (I, uh, I don't think Goku cares. But you do you, buddy.)
While Krillin's fantastizing, Maron gets distracted. She spots a yellow car, exclaiming that it's adorable and that she wants—Oh, wait, look at that house over there! It's so cute! Maron wants to live there!
Krillin promptly pictures a family photo taken in front of that house with that car. He and Maron have three kids: One boy, an exact Xerox of Krillin as a kid and dressed in a Kame-senryu dogi. One girl, looking like a young Maron and hiding from the camera behind Krillin's leg. And a baby in Maron's arms. Also, Krillin has grown a Hitler moustache for some reason.
(I did not realize he could grow moustaches, what with not having a nose. But I suppose the one is not related to the other at all, so there's no reason he can't. Looks super weird, though.)
While Krillin's in la-la land, we move to Kame House. The emergency situation that the Muten-Roshi called everyone to Kame House for is a birthday celebration for Umigame/Turtle. Bulma and Chi-Chi are livid over this. Bulma yells at Roshi for making it sound so dire, while Chi-Chi scowls angrily - Adding only that she took Gohan away from his studies for this nonsense.
Funi Bulma keeps bringing up that martial artist code of conduct thing that they keep making up for Roshi. She points out that with his deception, Roshi has violated another one of his sacred oaths: To never tell a lie.
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Funimation once again shows their lack of pre-Raditz knowledge. If Roshi was sworn to never lie, that would make that whole Jackie Chun thing super awkward.)
Roshi defends himself, explaining that Umigame turned 1,000 today. It's a significant milestone and should be celebrated by his friends. However, Roshi plum forgot it was happening until this morning and never told anybody. Hence, emergency!
Before Bulma can murder Roshi, the plodding sound of Umigame's flippers entering Kame House fills the room. He's surprised to see everybody here. He recognizes the occasion, announcing how honored he feels to see them all gathered here today to celebrate his milestone. Tears fill his eyes as he speaks about how blessed he feels to have wonderful friends like this group of people.
Listening to Umigame weep tears of joy over the surprise of their presence, Bulma and Chi-Chi exchange quick glances. In silent agreement, they turn towards Umigame, the rage on their faces replaced by warm smiles and affection.
Everybody raises glasses and they light up a birthday cake with 1,000 candles on it. They all shoot off party poppers and congratulate Umegami for 1,000 years of life! Krillin and Maron enter the building in time for confetti from the poppers to land on Krillin's head.
Maron greets everyone, then singles out and flirtatiously greets Yamcha specifically with a sly voice and a slow, meaningful wave. Yamcha returns the slow wave, personally greeting her back with a grin on his face. Seated next to him, Bulma silently fumes.
(Okay, so that answers whether or not she was joking around back in the first episode of this arc. Maron would absolutely hook up with Yamcha immediately if she and Krillin weren't dating.)
Krillin misunderstands the reason everyone's gathered together. He assumes this celebration is meant for him and Maron's engagement. He insists it's much too early, and also, how did they even know he was thinking about this? This news comes as a shock to the others; Krillin clarifies that they haven't agreed to anything yet, but Maron keeps dropping obvious hints, so....
This conversation happens back and forth over Maron's head, but she's too busy staring into the mesmerizing flames of 1,000 birthday candles to notice.
Most of the group congratulate Krillin for landing Maron. Chi-Chi states merely that she hopes Maron turns out to be as good of a bride as she is. Roshi, however, declares that he has yet to give Krillin his permission as Krillin's master to get married. If Krillin wants to earn his master's permission, Roshi needs one round of puff-puff from Maron. Bulma immediately punches Roshi into the wall.
Funimation turns Roshi's puff-puff moment into him demanding the right to kiss the bride first.
(This is the same joke. Literally the same joke that they already did in Maron's first episode. Exactly the same. For fuck's sake, he did try to pull this shit with Lazuli later too, didn't he? Oh, to be a fly on that wall.)
Maron watches Umigame attempt to blow out his candles, but there are so many and his ability to exhale is not impressive. She giggles, calling him Kame-chan.
Later that night, Krillin sits alone and awake on the front porch of Kame House. He stares up at the stars, wondering aloud whether he's truly capable of making Maron happy. Umigame approaches from inside, suggesting that Krillin could give her Mameido no Namida/The Mermaid's Tear.
Mameido no Namida is a gigantic pearl rumored to be in the ocean somewhere in this vicinity. According to legend, any person who receives this giant pearl from a person who loves them will be happy.
(That's a terrible legend. Most people who receive gorgeous jewelry from a person who loves them are happy. In fact, the "person who loves them" part is completely optional. Jewelry is pretty and people like it! Fuck out of here with this shit!)
Funimation doesn't bring up the whole "anyone who receives the pearl from a lover will be happy" thing. Instead, the Mermaid's Tear is simply stated to be extremely rare and valuable. Funimation keeps the focus on Turtle cynically encouraging Krillin to buy Maron's love through shallow materialism. Actual quote, "If she can't love you for who you are, then try giving her a giant pearl."
Krillin resolves to find Mameido no Namida and bring it to Maron. He kidnaps Gohan to do unpaid labor in service to his nuptials, then together they plunge into the ocean with rebreathers in search of the pearl.
The following morning, Maron lounges on a beach chair in her swimsuit while the Muten-Roshi and Gyumao gawk at her from the window. Chi-Chi yells at them for being perverts.
Maron heads inside the house, wondering where Krillin's at. She's bored and wants to—Oh, that will work. She spots Yamcha seated on the floor under the window, reading a magazine. Maron sidles up to Yamcha, plopping down and leaning over onto him. She coyly asks him to take her shopping.
Yamcha smiles, visibly enjoying the attention. However, he tries to explain—
Too late. Bulma stomps up, demanding to know exactly how serious Maron is about her relationship with Krillin. Maron admits she's undecided. The hell kind of answer is that? Bulma—
Chi-Chi, appearing out of nowhere, goes off on Maron for her answer. A wife must have complete conviction' to keep a house and raise children, like Chi-Chi does.
Maron laughs and waves them off, calling them a pair of Obasans. (Remember that word?) Bulma and Chi-Chi are so offended by Maron's insult, they promptly turn on each other, each declaring the other may be an Obasan but not her. This prompts further enraged ranting from them as they defend themselves and attack each other. Chi-Chi points out that she's younger than Bulma, while Bulma points out that she isn't "house-worn" like Chi-Chi.
Funimation does a fair job of translating Obasan, with Maron calling them "middle-aged ladies". But they don't quite have a good translation for that "house-worn" thing; The accusation being that Chi-Chi is aging faster than Bulma because she's worn down from having to sustain a household and parent a child (and a husband). That a complicated concept to put into a couple words, so Funi Bulma merely claims to be prettier than Chi-Chi.
Victorious, Maron declares that she does what she wants. And what she wants to do is go to the beach. (I thought what you wanted to do was go shopping with Yamcha? Maron's ADHD game is fierce.)
In the depths of the ocean, Krillin thinks he spots the pearl. However, it turns out to be the little bulb on an angler fish. Better luck next time.
The pair keep swimming until they pass a sunken pirate ship. Gohan notices all sorts of treasure and jewels within. He tries to point it out to Krillin, but Krillin ignores it and keeps looking.
Eventually, they come to a dark cave with something shimmering within. They swim inside, approaching a large chamber ahead. (Is this the Pirate Cave? I want this to be the Pirate Cave so bad.) As they approach, a swarm of tiny fishies swim out and push at them, trying to force them back. Weird fish behavior, but they push through easily enough.
Inside, they see it: A gigantic clam with a huge pearl the size of a Namekian Dragon Ball in its center. It's Mameido no Namida! Krillin descends to take the pearl from a clam, but then Gohan shouts a warning. Behind him, what seemed to be a rock is revealed to be a gigantic eel, hungry for Krillin meat.
(The strongest eel in the universe!)
The eel narrowly misses a chomp at Krillin. It bats Gohan away with its tail. Krillin grabs onto the a long frill sticking out of its back and gets dragged along with it. The eel throws him off, then flicks sideways and smashes him into a rock wall. It circles around, then comes in to bite at him. Krillin frantically swims upwards, evading the assault.
Krillin produces a ki blast in his left hand, but the eel thwaps him with its tail. The hit knocks Krillin back into another wall, at which point his own ki blast promptly detonates, blowing him up.
The blast sends a rockslide down towards the clam. The pearl is about to be buried! (Also, we're totally going to kill that clam.) Krillin swims down to get the pearl, but then the eel shoves him out of the way and catches the falling rocks with its head, saving the clam. All those fishies from earlier join in, pushing the rocks up with all their combined might while another school of fish scoots the clam to safety.
Once the clam is safe, the eel and the fish release the rocks and let them drop. Then they all turn on Gohan and Krillin, positioning themselves defensively between the interlopers and the clam.
Gohan gets it. Mameido no Namida belongs to these fish. (Hey look, we're doing a Colonialism. That awkward moment where you realize that you're the asshole here.) These fish will fight to defend that pearl with everything they have. Gohan turns to Krillin, suggesting that he should give Maron something else instead. Does it have to be this one specific pearl?
Funi Gohan directly compares this situation to what happened on Namek. He says that the fish are like the peaceful Namekians protecting their Dragon Balls, and that he and Krillin are like the Ginyu Force come to take it away from them.
(A good comparison except for the part about using the Ginyus specifically. The Ginyu Tokusentai does not kill a single Namekian in the entire arc. They're the only Frieza troops to interact exclusively with the Earthlings and Vegeta.)
Krillin stares at the pearl. His mind goes to Maron. He wants this so bad. But he won't do this. He acquiesces, placing a hand on Gohan's shoulder and agreeing to go home.
Krillin finds Maron lounging on the beach. In the background, various people enjoy the sun and water - Including, inexplicably, an exact copy of Maron wearing the same swimsuit, sitting under a beach umbrella with some guy. She's happy to see him.
Krillin takes Maron for a long sunset walk along the beach, but the sour mood brings her down. She asks why Krillin's so gloomy. She doesn't like gloomy people. Krillin admits that he doesn't know if he can satisfy her, so he breaks up with her on the spot. (That escalated quickly.)
An extremely confused Maron asks why they're splitting up. Does Krillin not like her anymore? Krillin doesn't give her an answer; He keeps right on walking, hanging his head in shame. Watching him go, Maron admits that she would have liked to be Krillin's bride. This news hits Krillin like a brick. He turns around, but she's already left.
Krillin runs after her, but trips over a log and faceplants into the sand. It's too late. She's gone. Some guy drives up in a fancy convertible and asks her to go driving with him to West City. She hops in without hesitation and drives off out of Krillin's life forever, leaving only a pair of sunglasses behind. Too bad.
Krillin returns to Kame House wearing those sunglasses. Everyone wants to know what happened to Maron, so Krillin explains he broke up with her because she didn't want to settle down. Roshi and Gyumao are outraged by this, but Yamcha, Bulma, and Chi-Chi are all proud of him. Maron sucked and they hated her, so they're happy to see him come around.
Krillin laughs with agreement. But behind the tinted lenses of Maron's sunglasses, he cries. The end.
Maron never got to meet Kami and I'm salty about that. She earned the bell and the Nyoi-bo from Karin fair and square. She's proven herself worthy to ascend into Tenkai.
Both Gohan and Krillin have now suggested that Goku's going to be super proud of Krillin for this beautiful woman he landed. And. Like. I find that hilarious because we all know Goku's first and last question would be, "Oh, neat. Does she fight?"
I'm sorry, Krillin. Your best friend is likely to be supportive of any woman you bring home because he wants you to be happy, but his enthusiasm is going to be exclusively based on how many rounds in the ring he and your wife can go. Goku knows what he's about.
...y'know, for a man who doesn't have a nose, Krillin spends a lot of time with his mouth shut. How does he breathe?
Roshi's "I need to motorboat Maron's tits before I'll agree to this" thing returns with a vengeance in this episode. And I feel that I need to point out that this gag doesn't even make sense. Roshi yanks this "As your master, I must approve of your girlfriend," rule straight out of his ass, but here's the catch: It doesn't even work within its own internal logic.
Roshi is not Krillin's master. Krillin and Yamcha graduated from Kame-senryu six years ago. Goku graduated nine years ago. Krillin wears a custom-tailored Kame-senryu dogi out of respect for his former master. Even if this rule wasn't something Roshi made up for an excuse to Puff-Puff Maron, Krillin would still be under no obligation to abide by it.
Roshi is an important part of Krillin's life; A father figure, even. But he has no authority over Krillin.
What a shaggy dog story this whole Maron thing turned out to be. Krillin successfully dumbassed himself into not marrying a woman whose feelings for him remain ambiguous despite being willing to marry him. It's like a straight inversion of Goku and Chi-Chi dumbassing themselves into marrying despite barely knowing each other.
Maron gives off strong neurodivergent energy. I find myself relating to her. She's supremely distractible, seeming to live her life following whims on the spur of the moment. She seems to struggle with retaining information and instead floats through life experiencing whatever's in front of her. She likes fun, loathes boredom, and sincerely does whatever seems like it'd be cool in the moment, without meaning anything by it and with little regard to consequences or long-term commitments.
That bit about Maron being willing to marry Krillin is a gut punch to be sure, but ultimately this is for the best. Krillin's looking for a white picket fence, and I'm not convinced Maron is neurologically capable of monogamy. She flirts twice with Yamcha throughout this arc without meaning anything by it with regards to her relationship to Krillin, because that's how she's wired. She's not trying to "trade up" or something; It's all innocent fun to her.
She enjoys being with Krillin. She would enjoy hooking up with Yamcha if Krillin isn't presently available in the moment. And she sees no contradiction between these two things. That's the way she is, and that makes her and Krillin long-term incompatible.
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Maron is a weird, neurodivergent version of Bulma. On the other hand, this is very good episode to learn about relationships and how love comes and goes......I think.
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Damn. The girl is all over the place.
Like, I kinda got that from the dub, but it's just crazy how....unwilling to stay still she is, both figuratively and literally.
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An open relationship between Yamcha and Maron would be spectacular, I think.
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I really want them to reveal that Yamcha's had a loving family and tons of kids for years at this point, but nobody really cared enough to ask so none of the cast knows about it. XD.
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It could work.
17 got himself an entire family offscreen.
And it's not like we see much of Yamcha's personal life (or the personal life of most of the DB gang, barring Goku, Bulma, Gohan and Krillin).
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What I'm hearing is, Yamcha was secretly 17's partner the whole time.
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There's just something about those Kame-senryu men that drives the twins wild.
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I'm still waiting for tien and chiaotzu to tie the knot.
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Tien did say that he would be willing to stay dead with Chaotzu if Chaotzu can't come back to life.
Would you say that Bulma would do the same for Vegeta? Lazuli for Krillin?
Speaking of M-M relationships that come off stronger then the explicit F-M relationships:
This might be cheap but my first thought was "they're supposed to be married to different people, right? Different women, in particular?"
This is the sort of thing that makes people ship Sora and Riku: where are the equivalent scenes with their wives where Vegeta beats down Goku Black while angrily tearing into him about how his first mistake was "that stolen body" and how he doesn't have the "lifetime of intense battles", the years of fighting experience and training that Goku put into every cell of his body and how he'll never learn to think like that clown?!
Vegeta makes it about a little about himself in the end but the whole fight with Goku Black is just Vegeta screaming about how he'll never compare to Goku and how he'll never truly understand what makes Goku Goku and that's what makes him inferior. Where are those scenes of just overpowering respect for one another?
Vegeta: The one that looks like you, of course.
Goku: Good luck, you sound like you can beat him.
How rude of you, Goku. I know the fandom likes to rib Vegeta about it but you should be better then that.
Edit:
"You just wait 'til it grows back!"
What the-why-what?
Why is that a line?
Edited by fredhot16 on Jan 15th 2022 at 1:50:31 AM
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The dubbers probably got confused because of Piccolo's regeneration earlier in the show, and thought that was something all of the weird energy blasting superheroes could do.
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I always just it was a poor attempted at hiding how serious the injury actually was. You know, along with stuff like having Nappa say all the buildings he blew up in the city were empty because it was Sunday and the like.
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But those went into the territory of "nobody was seen dead so nobody was killed". Plausible deniability, if you don't think about it two seconds, like the cargo bots whose cargo was people and those parachutes Tien and only Tien saw.
That line just admits that his arm was sheared off. That's confirming the injury is that bad because you don't regrow things that are still attached to you. And these are the people who keep talking about being sent to another dimension or being in the next dimension!
It's really funny how consistent and persistent they are on that. They keep doing it, over and over, it's never a few times, it's everywhere.
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So, a whole episode dedicated to showing how Krillin's insecurities prevent him from having a stable relationship and being happy?
It wouldn't be the worst idea... if they ever followed up on it but I don't they do? We're never shown Krillin overcoming his issues, but he dosen't end up single either, so this is not even a "Shaggy Dog" Story, it's just a bit of filler that is never followed up on and is promptly forgotten, which would be fine for something silly and lighthearted, but not heavy character stuff. Heck, Goku learning how to drive has more lasting consequences and is referenced more than this!
...
On another note, I've been thinking about the resolution of Garlic Jr. fight, and it's funny how we reached a point where in the situation where a bad guy is powered up by another planet, blowing up that planet is the easy way out. Really puts the power levels into perspective.
Arguably, Toei likes this concept of Krillin as a deeply fearful and insecure person unaware of his own merits, even though Toriyama never portrays him that way. I can think of two entirely distinct moments in the Super anime where they gave him that characterization.
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It gels with his characterization in the movies and in filler from the first Dragon Ball anime. Toei's been writing him as the kid brother to Yamcha and Ten. Under their pen, those two are the suave, confident, and capable Martial Arts Badasses, while Krillin and Chiaotzu are their respective hapless, bumbling, mostly useless sidekicks.
Toei's had to retire Yamcha, Ten, and Chiaotzu since their deaths and focus more on Krillin due to how much more plot-relevant he is in the Saiyan and Namek arcs. But their interpretation of the character hasn't evolved much, and there were a couple moments in those two arcs arc where their desire to depict him as hapless and fearful chafed uncomfortably against Toriyama's use of him as a cunning and capable leader.
It's easy to understand where this Maron stuff came from. Krillin's stated goal in learning martial arts was, from the beginning, to impress girls. He's wanted to find love since we met him, and he's gotten vocal about it ever since he died. Both the Saiyan and Namek arcs feature moment of Krillin complaining that he doesn't want to die without finding a girlfriend first.
With Maron, Toei threw him that bone. However, due to her being non-canon, he was not allowed to keep her. They had to write Maron back out before starting back up with the manga adaptation, and opted to do so in the most dramatic way they could think of with their version of this character.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Jan 15th 2022 at 4:32:41 AM
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Krillin may be hapless, but he's long since overcome his self-doubt...
All he had to do was kick a bully through the wall.
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That is very weird how insistent Toei is on portraying their interpretation of Krillin despite it having no longer being valid.
Edited by slimcoder on Jan 15th 2022 at 4:46:50 AM
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Toei does tend to hold tightly to their interpretations.
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I should note that while Toei's rendition of Krillin hasn't evolved, the level of seriousness has changed. The Garlic Jr. arc gave him more great moments of involvement in the story and fighting than all of the movies combined. Mostly following Piccolo's lead, but it's more than Toei's ever given him before.
And while you can say a lot of things about how this last episode treated him, it was all very sincere, serious drama. Krillin was not the comic relief in the Maron arc. This is a story about how he loved a strange woman and ultimately lost her because he couldn't get over his own insecurities. It still doesn't feel right to the character, but it does reflect a desire to write more serious stories around his character as Toei understands it.
There's even a bit of a difference between how he's treated in Cooler's Revenge vs. the other films. There, Krillin still can't fight worth a damn, but he makes the plan to retrieve the Senzu. He rescues Goku and Gohan from the cave. He stays with Goku, hiding him from the Kikosentai and making sure he wakes up. He's an active participant in the plot, rather than "LOL Krillin get stomped".
I think Namek may have finally broken Toei of their delusions that Krillin is an unimportant C-lister, while Yamcha and Ten are the vital non-Goku fighters rounding out the protagonist cast. Their Krillin remains their Krillin, but the tone with which Toei treats him has changed.
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When was Krillin a C-Lister? At worst, he is a jobber and even then, he doesn't really job to anyone as far I know.
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The point is Toei thought he was less important than he actually was...
Which given his role in the RRA arc & being dead for the entire King Piccolo arc may have given them that...fair impression.
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The best part of this joke is that it might legitimately be true.
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If we assume that Goku literally never turned off the Super Saiyan form during the one week before the Cell Games, even while sleeping, then, congratulations, random internet pervert, your hentai idea is actually right on the money: Chi-Chi has more then likely, if not definitely, slept with Goku while he was a Super Saiyan.
Huh. I'd say "point to Chi-Chi for handling that" but Full Power Super Saiyan seems to be roughly under Goku's control so it's probably no more dangerous or strenuous then the last time.
Edit: This is one of my better pagetoppers but I get a lot of crappy, boring ones that just ambush me in the middle of a conversation.
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A decade that leaves out a very important part of their story: their trip to Namek and it's explosions of power-ups for everybody involved. His database has a complete blank from when they left Earth and they came back jacked. Gohan and Krillin left weaker then Nappa and came back stronger then Vegeta.
Dr. Gero: SERIOUSLY, WHAT THE F*CK IS NAMEK?!
Edited by fredhot16 on Jan 15th 2022 at 11:37:05 AM
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