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tms_forever1 Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#97201: Oct 3rd 2019 at 10:59:07 AM

[up] [up]there better be a panel of Goku saying “You migh know everything I’m going to do but that’s not going to help you BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYTHING YOURE GOING TO DO! *STRANGE* isn’t it!?” While in a beam struggle with Mecha Goku. :p

Serious question that’s probably been discussed before so sorry I’m advance but, what do you think is the main reason for Freeza’s new role, like besides the obvious of making the series more long lasting, was he chosen just because he’s the most popular villain or do does Toriyama just legitimately like coming up with stories that involve him?

Edit: oh I page topped lol

Edited by tms_forever1 on Oct 3rd 2019 at 2:01:02 PM

FrozenWolf2 Horni Demon LORD from HORNI LAND Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Horni Demon LORD
#97202: Oct 3rd 2019 at 11:02:31 AM

huh Shit I thought one of you posted the first one...

ummm

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#97203: Oct 3rd 2019 at 11:27:03 AM

Totally Not Mark showers praise on The Path To Power, and while I mostly agree with his complements, I have one big criticism of the movie that drags it down. The supporting cast is entirely useless. The only characters in the main team that serve a narrative point in the movie are Goku, Bulma, and Roshi, and Roshi's role is just to teach Goku the Kamehameha. After that point, Roshi becomes just as useless as Oolong, Yamcha, and Puar are, which means that 2/3rds of the main cast could have been cut from the movie without affecting anything.

The thing with this is that those characters did have a point in the original manga. Oolong stopped Pilaf's wish and Yamcha and Puar stopped Oozaru Goku. Roshi didn't have the issue of running around being useless because he left the story once he taught Goku the Kamehameha. Half of Path to Power is just wasting time reenacting scenes from the manga because they're introducing characters who literally don't do anything. The scenes look nice, but they're ultimately useless in the narrative of the movie.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#97204: Oct 4th 2019 at 1:16:37 AM

If Puar ever wished for world domination, couldn't they just overthrow him easily?

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Formerly G.G.
#97205: Oct 4th 2019 at 1:53:43 AM

I guess but it would be anti climatic if it was.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#97206: Oct 4th 2019 at 7:05:22 AM

Well, nobody has ever overthrown Dog emperor yet...though King Piccolo came close before he got a bad case of oh shit! It's Goku!

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#97207: Oct 4th 2019 at 6:58:52 PM

Funnily enough, there is someone who rules the world, that being King Furry. And according to Bulma someone wished to be king long ago. Put it together, and someone legitimately wished to Take Over the World and succeeded(well King of Earth, but it's basically the same thing), with King Furry being his descendant.

Question: was the rule on why Shenron can't wish someone back twice because he can't make the same wish twice? Because if so and the implications about King Furry are true, Pilaf's plan is All for Nothing because someone already wished world domination

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#97208: Oct 4th 2019 at 8:55:09 PM

....

I think it's the exact same wish.

So King Furry and descendants can't wish themselves kings of the mountain again....though if I'm wrong and you're right, then Pilaf is in a Frieza on Namek situation, only he didn't do it to himself.

It kinda makes the fact that Goku keeps foiling his attempts at a wish even more unfair. He's stopped from even trying, and he'd fail even if he did make the wish.

But yeah, Pilaf should be able to do it, since he'd be wishing himself King. The no double dipping on wishes rule only applies for the exact same person I think, or I guess those related to it.

One Strip! One Strip!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#97209: Oct 4th 2019 at 9:08:03 PM

My headcanon is that the reason Emperor Pilaf seems so ineffectual is because his family used to rule a wide kingdom until that one guy wished to rule the world, which rendered his royal family powerless. Their forces then dwindled over time to just two people: Mai, the last member of the Royal Army, and Shu, the last member of a Ninja Clan loyal to the throne.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#97210: Oct 4th 2019 at 9:16:35 PM

The best part about Pilaf's desire for a wish and status as an enemy is that the gang probably wouldn't care if he wished to rule the world. They only fought the first time because they each wanted the balls for their own purposes at the time, and also Pilaf was being an asshole about it.

None of them characters seem to have any real interest in who's actually running things, as long as it doesn't inconvenience them.

Hell, it's uncommon for our heroes to fight bad guys specifically because they're going to do bad things if they don't - I think there's one or two exceptions (the androids, for one), but usually they're actually fighting for some other or personal reason that just eventually snowballs into "welp, now we're going to die if we don't, so..."

Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 4th 2019 at 9:19:35 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#97211: Oct 4th 2019 at 9:22:38 PM

Yeah.

I've said it before that ultimately, dude's get their shit rekt by Goku and company because they just get in their way.

It never fails that as soon as the bad dudes want the balls, the Z-Warriors (or just Goku) will be collecting them at the same time, and between Bulma's superior Dragon Radar and the heroes being literally the strongest warriors on the planet, they more or less hold a monopoly. How many times have we seen them just casually holding onto the balls, since they collected them offscreen.

And yet, if Pilaf could make his wish, they probably wouldn't care. Even the Red Ribbon Army might have eventually taken over the world unabated if they hadn't gotten on Goku's bad side (and killed Bora don't forget). That was their real death sentence. Nobody else wanted to try and touch them until Goku came along, being both too stupid to know fighting an entire army was insane, and strong enough to pull it off anyway.

Pilaf gets screwed in every way possible.

One Strip! One Strip!
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#97212: Oct 5th 2019 at 11:22:12 AM

https://twitter.com/ToeiAnimation/status/1180477237155520512

Toei wished Monica Rial happy birthday and thanks for voicing Bulma. Let's all do the same.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#97213: Oct 5th 2019 at 11:37:41 AM

Think she could use that after the last nine months.

Also, FYI; don't read the replies...I mean it.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Oct 5th 2019 at 2:38:36 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#97214: Oct 5th 2019 at 12:15:48 PM

On the bright side there defenders so it’s not completely.

Also Happy B-Day Rial. [tup] [awesome] grin

I once met her at a con, ya know that squeaky voice of hers actually is her real voice?

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 5th 2019 at 12:17:18 PM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#97215: Oct 5th 2019 at 12:29:50 PM

Okay, what is those people problem with her anyway?

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#97216: Oct 5th 2019 at 12:30:50 PM

They think she deliberately falsely accused someone. I think, I'm not up on all the details.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#97217: Oct 5th 2019 at 12:43:12 PM

They are still in denial about it.

It's damned disgraceful.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#97218: Oct 5th 2019 at 1:05:59 PM

Vic's fans will always believe the narrative that suits them, so it's a lost cause to talk about them. Today is a great day for Rial, and that's all that matters now.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#97219: Oct 5th 2019 at 1:07:11 PM

Hell yeah it’s a great day.

The jackass lost & is set due to pay her the wazoo once the judge figures sums up the reparations. Especially if he uses that gofundme money to pay off his debts meaning all the idiots who harassed her is gonna have their money used to pay her back. [lol]

She got total victory here. [awesome]

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 5th 2019 at 1:09:27 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
TheMageofFire Magical Girl in Training from A Warehouse Out by Sea Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Magical Girl in Training
#97220: Oct 5th 2019 at 1:22:01 PM

Just say happy birthday to her and be done with it, no need to drag that shit up anymore.

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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#97221: Oct 5th 2019 at 1:23:51 PM

So I went on wikipedia to figure out what's going and man, that's one weird controversy.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#97222: Oct 5th 2019 at 1:56:33 PM

You've been out of the loop since January, its been...a thing

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#97223: Oct 5th 2019 at 2:24:26 PM

Yeah, last time I was here, everyone liked Vic Mignogna.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#97224: Oct 5th 2019 at 2:29:44 PM

Wow does that feel like a long time ago.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#97225: Oct 5th 2019 at 2:32:46 PM

It was literally less than a year ago.

But that's fame for you: it takes years to build, and just a few seconds to lose it all.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Oct 5th 2019 at 5:34:39 AM

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.

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