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Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia
Mighty No. 51345
Sep 20th 2019 at 11:08:58 PM

Kinda makes sense. He probably just absorbs the ambient ki he would be sensing.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Sep 20th 2019 at 2:09:50 PM

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randomness4 S.M. from The Land of Inconvenience
S.M.
Sep 20th 2019 at 11:48:28 PM

Sensing that others can sense him doesn't make sense.

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Sep 20th 2019 at 11:49:50 PM

It's a cool wizard thing.

Sep 21st 2019 at 1:47:20 AM

I wonder if Vegeta will be happy about learning a technique that lets him be taller. tongue

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Now my Spirit Ball is on autopilot!
Sep 21st 2019 at 1:52:09 AM

It's not like Vegeta doesn't already have experience fighting as a giant. He'll just be less hairy this time around.

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Formerly G.G.
Sep 21st 2019 at 6:58:11 AM

No wonder Vegeta is so angry all the time, Napoleon Complex, tongue

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Sep 21st 2019 at 8:12:27 AM

[up][up] Unless literally all the hair he would've had as an Oozaru is deposited on top of his head.

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Sep 21st 2019 at 10:59:43 AM

I REALLY need to read this arc now, I've read the manga stuff that's out here physically but I honestly don't feel like waiting this sounds interesting lol. ^^

Zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia
Mighty No. 51345
Sep 21st 2019 at 10:59:47 AM

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Edited by Zeromaeus on Sep 21st 2019 at 2:00:12 PM

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
Sep 22nd 2019 at 5:37:00 AM

Can someone clarify some things from the manga for me? Why are there suddenly two types of Yadarat people? And where did a guy stronger than Goku and capable of using Ultra Instinct come from and how did he stay out of everyone's radar so long? And didn't Goku master Ultra Instinct already?

The manga seriously confuses me right now

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HIIIHOOO!!!
Sep 22nd 2019 at 5:41:45 AM

Toyble used both the anime and DBO designs for the Yardrats. Merus is still as mysterious as ever, though we could get some answers in the next chapter. The silver-haired Ultra Instinct is as close to mastered as Goku can get, but Goku can't maintain the form for very long.

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PushoverMediaCritic Now my Spirit Ball is on autopilot! from the Italy of America Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Now my Spirit Ball is on autopilot!
Sep 22nd 2019 at 5:49:09 AM

In the manga, Goku can just pop in and out of Ultra Instinct apparently at will from being in a certain state of mind (although he can't now for some reason). In the anime, Goku needs to lose consciousness in order to enter Ultra Instinct, which I think is a much cooler way of handling it, makes it feel way more different than just another transformation.

Makes me wonder how this part of the arc would be handled by the anime team since Super is divided into two different continuities.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Sep 22nd 2019 at 5:49:47 AM

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Sep 22nd 2019 at 9:30:34 AM

But...he didn't lose consciousness the last two times it happened in the Anime...

[up][up][up] Merus is heavily implied to be related to the Angels if you're wondering why he's so strong.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Sep 22nd 2019 at 12:30:50 PM

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Now my Spirit Ball is on autopilot!
Sep 22nd 2019 at 9:46:01 AM

No, he did, unless you're talking about Heroes. Kafla kicked him in the back of the head, knocking him unconscious, and Jiren beat him up to the point that he went limp and unconscious while still standing.

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King of Burgers
Sep 22nd 2019 at 9:49:37 AM

Thanks for answers guys. The thing with Yadarats is pretty neat. Though I wonder about one more thing: since all their abilities are not separate techniques, but just things they can do thanks to "spirit manipulation" doesn't that mean Goku already knows that?

[up][up]Well, that would at least explain his power. Now I wonder why he doesn't just solve the crisis by himself.

Edited by Shlugo_the_great on Sep 22nd 2019 at 6:50:02 PM

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Sep 22nd 2019 at 10:03:10 AM

[up]

We donít know the full story yet, but if he is an Angel, he might be bound by the strange no interfering rule all of them follow.

We also suspect he might be from one of the previously destroyed universes, which might be further incentive for secrecy.

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FrozenWolf2 Just an Old Mon from Stuck in Kanto
Just an Old Mon
Sep 22nd 2019 at 10:11:12 AM

that and if he is hiding his powers for a decent reason... like say Zeno shows up

and remember what happens when Zeno shows up to 'Fix' things

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
Sep 22nd 2019 at 11:04:17 AM

[up][up][up][up] Goku was having cognitive thoughts of all of his friends before he transformed. He wasn't unconscious.

The conditions for him are just as vague between both versions, because they aren't consistent.

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Sep 22nd 2019 at 1:45:27 PM

Also, I don't think "mastered" ultra instinct was a term used by official sources, I think that was a fanmade term that gave the wrong impression of the form.

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Sep 22nd 2019 at 1:52:48 PM

No, Ultra Instinct Mastered was in the title of the episode.

Saiga Helpful & reliable Pope of Bleach & DB threads from Sunny Australia Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
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Sep 22nd 2019 at 3:43:14 PM

The phrase 極まる doesn't literally mean 'masterred' so I don't know that that's the best translation of it. I'm not versed in Japanese, but I checked out phrase and it literally means "to reach/take to the extreme, reach the end of, or be in a dilemma".

Japan has lots of words and phrases for mastery so it's not like there wasn't another phrase they could have used to denote that.

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Sep 22nd 2019 at 3:48:10 PM

So, Limit Over Ultra Instinct or something?

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King of Burgers
Sep 22nd 2019 at 4:00:13 PM

Why are you asking Saiga? He just said he's not versed in Japanese! tongue

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Insane Religious Murderbot
Sep 22nd 2019 at 4:05:05 PM

Watching the final episodes of the tournament I find it weird how they donít ever humor the idea of just outlasting Jiren.

Like defeating him at all costs is treated as the only possible choice for victory despite blatantly outnumbering him. The option of just waiting out the final minute is never thought of by anyone.

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