Manga/Dragon Ball

what if 'canon'!broccoli whispers all the time instead

I am very curious how New!Broly will be treated by the games, especially in comparison to Old!Broly. Are the games going to continue shilling the hell out of Old!Broly, giving him even more new and higher forms, while only paying lip service to New!Broly, or are the games going to completely abandon Old and Busted Broly in favor of New Hotness Broly. Or, are the games going to treat the two Brolys relatively equally, maybe even fusing them together at some point in the future?

What would the fusion name of two Brolies be?

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Wouldn't that just be Broly? Like with fused Zamasu

That's stupid and lazy

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Stupid and lazy is what makes sense.

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If you wanted to do something else, you could always swap the order of the syllables in Broly's name. How does Lybro work for you?

Broly².

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I second Broly².

Edited by LordVatek on Sep 19th 2018 at 6:58:12 AM

This song needs more love.

That's more like it

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That one works too

Edited by FitzChippy on Sep 19th 2018 at 3:59:47 AM

Not sure how to type that.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

Broly Maximumer

Uni cat

OG-Broly will probably be handled similarly to GT Goku.

Maximum Brolly.

And regarding brutal fights Super Buu Gotenks pretty much decided to just beat the tar out of Gohan at one point.

Gohan was brutally beaten to near death on namek against the Ginyu Force.

At least videl did some damage even if she was against an opponent that could survive their neck being broken.

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Gohan has an habit of being brutally beaten up. Poor dude.

Uni cat

Yeah, the Videl/Spopovich is a lot less one-sided than some say it is. Videl had the clear advantage early on, kicking the shit out of him and even dealing what should have been a fatal blow. It's just that Babidi's magic allowed Spopovich to heal from a broken neck and gave him enough stamina to outlast her. Which reminds me, none of Babidi's other henchmen ever demonstrated those abilities.

She really didn't.

It's made pretty clear that Spopovitch was just toying with her wasn't it?

Anything she did was inconsequential and Spopovitch could have won that fight at anytime.

Maybe the neck breaking is the only moment where she caught him flat footed, but note that that's the point where he stopped messing around and starts messing her up.

I will say though (and we have had this discussion before) that there have been worse beatings, and it does serve a plot purpose (in showing us a bit of what Babidi can do via how much Spopovitch has changed), but it still does Videl dirty as her only fight in the series is...well is that.

That's it, and then she just sits on the sidelines like every other human and female. It can't be helped: she's the Chi-Chi of her arc. Introduced so late in the series that she has zero hope of ever mattering in combat, but if you're a fan of her, it's still a bitter pill to swallow, which seems to happen a lot with dragon ball.

I feel like there was more I wanted to say, but I've lost my train of thought.

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Nope. Never stated or shown. Nope. Toriyama's art is very clear about this: he started winning after this because she exhausted herself. It's a very slow process, where she's initially winning easily and is sightly winded, then huffing and puffing more and fighting basically evenly (but still wins via neck break), then noticeably fatigued and losing but still putting up a fight, and then finally she's exhausted and can't really put up any more resistance (she tries to get around this by flying in the air to rest where he can't attack, but then he flies too). The choreography is actually very well done.

I'm pretty sure the only point of Videl vs Spopovich was to piss off Gohan and justify him going Super Saiyan later in the tournament so the whole Buu thing could get started already. Personally I think they could have settled on a Your Mom joke, but it is what it is. I don't expect Shonen anime to be any good at writing female characters. (I'm not saying it to defend it but rather with, like, weary resignation)

Torture...

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And who would you say is a well written female character in Dragon Ball?

Uni cat

Bulma is.

She's an asshole, but she's an asshole who retains a lot of agency and tends to, if not actually drive the plot like in the first arc, be pretty damn helpful more often than not; she has intelligence, gumption, and resources.

"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"

She doesn't get phased out...?

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Well, saying "well-written" implies more than a margin of effort was put into writing them and I'm not entirely sure that applies to any female character. That said, evil future Android 18 is fine. She's petty and completely one-dimensional mind you, but it works to make her and Android 17 awful. Which is why it's nice when Trunks blows them up. I consider that well-written, I guess? Vados in Super is funny, so I'd count her in too. Maybe.

I'm not sure I'd count Bulma. When she isn't a magical science dispenser for the sake of the plot she's just that bossy/scary wife trope that every other character is afraid of because Rule of Funny. I like the concept of Future Bulma though. I wish Super would have made more with her.