I have to agree with a lot of people here: we really shouldn't try and make titles as cringe-worthy as possible, even if it's about a politically incorrect trope.
Halper's Law: as the length of an online discussion of minority groups increases, the probability of "SJW" or variations being used = 1.Agreed. This was a precedent from Where da White Women At?, but at least with that, it's has a well-known Trope Namer and it's concise. None of these try-hard names really make sense. Someone can holler for a mod, I think it's going to be Whiteys Little Asian, but hopefully they'll do White Mans Asian Woman.
White Mans Asian Woman is at -5, and it completely misses the trope to boot.
Asking again: Has anybody got a less cringeworthy name?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanOkay.
Maybe it's time to rethink this. Maybe we're barking up the wrong tree.
The stereotype is that an asian Love Interest is disadvantaged, right? The white guy is only incidental to that.
No, the relationship is important.
Also, "all names that we find are either unpopular or obtuse" =! "we need to rethink this"
edited 7th Feb '13 11:07:59 AM by SeptimusHeap
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanDon't worry too much. Whiteys Little Asian will be sent back here in a few months, maybe we'll get a decent name next time.
To be blunt, I'm waiting for actual objective reasons for why my suggestion is bad. We've had one so far (about confusing the romantic relationship for a parent-child one), which is a concern, although a minor one. Not much we can do about that except see if that problem manifests, at which point I will eat my proverbial hat and join in another rename effort.
Honestly, I'm beginning to wonder if some people are getting too emotionally attached to this issue. It's a trope rename, and not a particularly significant one at that. It isn't the end of the world if the name isn't perfect.
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)I added the redirect to the crowner.
It is bad to have a pun of Daddy's Little Angel as a title about unequal sexual relationships between adults because it will trigger a great many people. Stock phrases about small children and sexual relationships do not mix.
I didn't say it wasn't. My point is that the name is focused too much on the relationship and not the core point of the trope.
That is what it sounded like. Do you have a better name suggestion?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanWell, a week has gone by and we're just spinning our wheels again, it seems.
Also, any possible play on "Daddy's Little Angel" was unintended. I can see that it might get mistaken for that, but I just don't see the other suggestions as really any better.
If no one has any brilliant suggestions (and at this point, they'd have to be near perfect to justify not starting the crowner over for them), we really need to wrap this up.
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)What about Underprivileged Asian Lover
If we want to say it's exclusive to white men, we can do it in the description. But that name would solve the actual problem the thread was started to solve.
edited 16th Feb '13 5:11:26 PM by KingZeal
Ugh, Whiteys Little Asian is still winning? Holler at a mod, I guess. We'll have a chance to change it when it gets sent back down here for the stupid name, at least.
Bump. Whitey Little Asian is the top pick, but with 24 yays and 17 nays, so there doesn't seem to be a high consensus. So...what to do...
Well, the mods would agree with you on that count, seeing as the crowner is still open, despite not really changing very much in the last month.
However, I don't think this is something we can leave as is, the misuse is a little crazy. So...thoughts?
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)I will say that whoever added Asian Race Fetish to the crowner is either grasping at straws, or really doesn't get what this trope is about. That's just outright a bad name and totally misrepresents the trope, no matter how you slice it.
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)I honestly am liking Docile Asian And Mighty Whitey.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThe main problem with "docile" is that she doesn't have to be.
We have seen at least 6 new people vote in the past 80-ish hours, so this is still picking up at least a little action. Since that many votes could throw the result in a new direction—given that there's no runaway lead—we're going to wait for that to slow a little.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.Whiteys Asian Doormat is indeed the most appropriate title.
Fictional White boys believe Asian women are convenient doormats that don't talk back and don't have any other wish than being a man's trophy housemaid... and of course a rutting sow when it comes to sex.
Plus there's the whole "I have bigger cock than Asian guys thus I'm a better man" ordeal that is much more present than one would like to acknowledge. It's also part of why Where da White Women At? is often a touchy subject because Black men have a reputation of... yeah.
This trope is supposed to be patronizing and offensive, not about truly loving relationships where race is incidental.
PS: As a side note, don't you all think there's a trope to be created about White women/Any non-White man? When it shows up in Western works, it's the whole plot, never incidental.
Where da White Women At? or whatever it it spelled?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThat's overly simplifying both trope.
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I suppose it's Whiteys Little Asian then. Judging whoever voted for that.