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#4626: Jun 9th 2016 at 9:50:08 PM

Armstrong's nanomachines are obviously not standard-issue, though. If you're going to integrate an undoubtedly billion-dollar machine system into your body to protect yourself from harm, you're going to drop some extra money on making sure they're properly shielded against inhibitors or jamming signals.

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#4627: Jun 9th 2016 at 10:51:15 PM

It's amazing that one Armstrong is harder to beat than a whole group of RAY.

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#4628: Jun 10th 2016 at 1:01:37 AM

Yeah, I don't see any of the Snakes standing a chance against Armstrong unless some magical plot item comes along to help him. Hell, even Raiden would be damn near impossible to beat, especially since he tends to get even stronger and more ruthless when under duress or extreme damage.

Plus Grey Fox was trying to give Snake a fair fight. He could've gone to town and had an easy with had he used both the optical camo and the HF blade, but instead he chose to fight snake-hand to hand, and only sparingly using the camo.

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#4629: Jun 10th 2016 at 3:09:17 PM

Yeah, Gray Fox was deliberately not going all-out on Snake. Watch the pre-battle cutscene when Fox destroys the door lock panel without visibly moving (and only momentary split-second blurs betraying the fact that he did... despite those blurs happening even while his body appears to haven't moved!), and especially post-battle cutscene when Fox goes crazy due to the lack of his special medicine; Snake was lucky that none of the invisible rapid slashes were actually aimed at him, because there was no way he could've dodged any of them.

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#4630: Jun 10th 2016 at 3:42:54 PM

Of course Snake beat a psychic. I'd like to see Sundowner or Sam do that!

Granted, this made me wonder if the psychic-insulation implants that Baker and SIGINT had would be put in cyborgs and stuff. I somehow doubt it. Then again, the Winds (and Sam) aren't really grunts so who knows. I'm pretty sure it's never specified one way or another.

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#4631: Jun 10th 2016 at 3:45:48 PM

They're Knights to Lord Armstrong. Retainers. Bannermen. Fodder.

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#4632: Jun 10th 2016 at 5:03:31 PM

Ya know, I guess Armstrong ends up making the previous fight and song seem trivial in comparison, but I always liked the Excelsus fight. Mainly it was for the theme. Relistening to it and understanding the lyrics, it is by far my favorite track in the game.

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#4633: Jun 10th 2016 at 5:51:56 PM

Yeah, they seem to be mostly puzzle-based in the main games, except for the Sahelanthropus fight in Phantom Pain, which was terrible because the Boss was on foot with no support (in contrast to how the game would have ended which would have had the Diamond Dog's entire army fighting Sahelanthropus on Madagascar but that never got finished because of Konami).

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#4634: Jun 11th 2016 at 7:13:39 AM

[up]Nah, Kojima decided against making it because he figured early on that it would be too time-consuming. Plus, the island the kids were stuck on was supposed to be a whole new region to explore, not just a single mission.

And yes, the Sahelanthropus fight does suck. Way too easy, even against the supposed "Extreme" difficulty version. Aside from the Quiet fight and the first battle against the Skulls, MGS 5 was really lacking in quality boss fights.

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#4635: Sep 17th 2016 at 1:47:12 AM

This podcast has an interesting analysis about Rising.

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#4636: Sep 17th 2016 at 4:59:38 AM

Summary, please? Some of us may not feel like spending a whole hour watching a single video.

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#4637: Sep 17th 2016 at 6:06:57 AM

[up]Seconded. Lots of mere rambling there. Would appreciate a summary.

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#4638: Sep 17th 2016 at 12:39:03 PM

They are essentially trying to analysis the story of Rising where they argue that MGS Rising is a commentary on post war society and veterans rights. They also analyzes Raiden's character arc as well as argue whether or not Rising is a good story.

edited 17th Sep '16 12:44:58 PM by GAP

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#4639: Sep 17th 2016 at 5:02:20 PM

All of Metal Gear is about Veteran's Rights.

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#4640: Sep 17th 2016 at 9:38:47 PM

I guess in that regard, it fits perfectly fine with the rest of the series. BB's whole gripe was about how soldiers are discarded and treated like violent outcasts after a conflict is finished, and Solid's "we're not tools of the government, or anyone else" speech at the end of MGS 2 summarizes his worldview (and Kojima's, to an extent) perfectly.

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#4641: Sep 17th 2016 at 10:15:58 PM

Tragic, given that, in every game, the Player Character is someone's tool.

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#4642: Sep 17th 2016 at 10:38:20 PM

"We may win the war but what of the people who fought in it?"

edited 17th Sep '16 10:38:36 PM by GAP

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#4643: Nov 9th 2016 at 7:14:36 PM

So...

edited 9th Nov '16 7:25:35 PM by Soble

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#4644: Nov 9th 2016 at 8:26:00 PM

Noew all we need is a Cyborg Ninja and we are gonna have good time! [lol]

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#4645: Nov 10th 2016 at 10:39:50 AM

3:28 is unexpectedly relevant.

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#4646: Nov 10th 2016 at 11:28:31 AM

The "make America great again"? Why, aside from Trump using the same phrase word for word?

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#4647: Nov 10th 2016 at 11:35:53 AM

I mean, it was Trump's slogan and here it was used years before anyone took a Trump presidency even remotely seriously.

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#4648: Nov 10th 2016 at 11:57:52 AM

[up] Indeed. Not to mention that Armstrong wanted to create a world where only the strong rule with his Social Darwinist policies. Keep in mind, The Patriots had been destroyed and the economy has been in shambles in Rising where PM Cs were on the rise as well as cyborg/veterans who end joining up PM Cs because they cannot get any civilian jobs. It is kind of funny that Rising predicted Trump before Trump himself became president. surprised

edited 10th Nov '16 11:58:48 AM by GAP

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#4649: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:09:38 PM

Pretty ironic too, given that Kojima only had a indirect hand in Rising's development and plot, yet it's another game in the Metal Gear saga that predicts future political developments. And that Raiden usually tends to be involved in those particular installments.

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#4650: Nov 10th 2016 at 9:39:32 PM

Yeah that is true, MGS 2 predicted, misnformation, confirmation bias and the BP oil spill and now Rising predicted Trump and PM Cs controlling everything.

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